Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 59462 invoked from network); 22 May 2007 23:52:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 22 May 2007 23:52:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 39667 invoked by uid 500); 22 May 2007 23:52:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 39540 invoked by uid 500); 22 May 2007 23:52:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 39525 invoked by uid 99); 22 May 2007 23:52:57 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 May 2007 16:52:57 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.42.249] (HELO nwk-ea-fw-1.sun.com) (192.18.42.249) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 May 2007 16:52:50 -0700 Received: from d1-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.39.119]) by nwk-ea-fw-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l4MNqUme011994 for ; Tue, 22 May 2007 16:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.d1-sfbay-09.sun.com by d1-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0JIG00M01VLBB200@d1-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Craig.Russell@Sun.COM) for general@incubator.apache.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 16:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (c-24-6-172-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.172.77]) by d1-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0JIG00JYEVNH4760@d1-sfbay-09.sun.com> for general@incubator.apache.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 16:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 16:52:29 -0700 From: Craig L Russell Subject: Re: [VOTE] Change "Mentor" to "Mentors" in Incubator Policy In-reply-to: <8b3ce3790705221609s5210b44k9388eaaddb46bd4e@mail.gmail.com> Sender: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM To: general@incubator.apache.org Message-id: <913FCF5D-06E6-463B-B26C-A7A98296DE2B@SUN.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary=Apple-Mail-103--292713003; micalg=sha1 References: <7D42E494-B245-4124-850E-DF954870C87B@SUN.com> <67338362-946D-4028-BE38-F9E6C54BDFE4@jaguNET.com> <5c902b9e0705211321v74bae644u9a07f39e06bd588e@mail.gmail.com> <0DD6D5F1-998D-41E3-83E5-AD3D9A96FB7B@SUN.com> <8b3ce3790705221027x2c82b254h9bf70bf2ee6f8577@mail.gmail.com> <9C7D0D37-47A4-48DB-B3C7-BE78B92E25FB@SUN.com> <8b3ce3790705221609s5210b44k9388eaaddb46bd4e@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-103--292713003 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Ted, On May 22, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Ted Husted wrote: > On 5/22/07, Craig L Russell wrote: >> > At one point, we had people becoming members of the Incubator >> PMC by >> > virtue of being a Mentor or by virtue of a vote of the Incubator >> PMC. >> > Did that change? This language implies that the Mentors must be >> > pre-existing members of the Incubator PMC. >> >> This is the current consensus of the IPMC as I understand it. > > OK, just so I understand. We have a Member who's not on the IPMC. He > or she agree to Mentor a candidate, but before the proposal is > tendered, the Member should first ask to be placed on the IPMC. Being > a Member, the chair will ACK and add that person to the IPMC. > > In other words, the Member has to actually ask to be added to the > IPMC, otherwise the Member can't be a Mentor. > > Is that the consensus as we understand it? Actually, the process is slightly different for Foundation Members vs. non-Members. The process you elaborate above only applies to non- Member prospective Mentors. Members can become IPMC members simply by asking the IPMC chair who will then make it so. Craig > >> Can we defer this discussion? > > Sure. > > -Ted. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? 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