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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject RE: Adding new committers process
Date Tue, 29 May 2007 20:02:33 GMT
Martin Ritchie wrote:

> I'd like to get some consensus on what the PPMC's role is so
> that we can update the documentation.

> On 11/04/07, Noel J. Bergman <> wrote:
> > The PPMC has no standing within the ASF.  It is a useful structure for the
> > Incubator, but the only binding votes on a PPMC are those of the Incubator
> > PMC members casting them.  The PMC is the recognized entity within the ASF
> > structure responsible for the management of a project, and we need to ensure
> > that decisions go through the PMC in order to maintain that role.  Why do
> > you think that I keep pushing the minimum of three (active) Mentors
> > recommendation?

> So should the PPMC's role be to organise, select and perform the
> vote and then forward the vote to general@ for ratification that
> we have performed the process correctly.

> At which point the IPMC takes control of the vote such that when
> three IPMC memebers have voted (Which may have already occured
> IF the podlings mentors have voted) they create the account
> requests and send them to root@ copying the <podling>-private@ list.

For any vote, committer or otherwise, the PPMC should do as you describe, including notifying
the Incubator PMC of the vote.  In the case of most votes, notification would be on general@,
but in the case of a committer vote, it most likely would occur on private@.  The binding
votes are those cast by the Incubator PMC (exception: in the case of a vote for *PPMC* membership,
since that body has no legal standing, there is no need for Incubator PMC votes) and follow
standard ASF voting rules.

At such point as the vote is concluded, one of the project's Mentors, who is an Incubator
PMC member, should be acting on the result.  Requests to root must be cc'd to private@${PMC},
so that would imply root@, private@, and ${podling}-private@.

If at any point a podling feels that its Mentors are not active enough, they should raise
their concern with the Incubator PMC.

	--- Noel

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