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From "Noel J. Bergman" <n...@devtech.com>
Subject RE: PPMC guidance on new committers
Date Wed, 30 May 2007 17:00:59 GMT
Craig Russell wrote:

> I'd like to open the discussion on the "best practice" referred to by
> the guides/ppmc because I'm not convinced that best practice for a
> TLP is best practice for the incubator.

> Personally, if I saw a vote on the incubator private PMC list for a
> new committer on a podling, including references to the PPMC
> discussion and vote, I would be inclined to vote for that committer.

> On the other hand, if I saw a vote on the incubator private PMC list
> that just offered the usual so-and-so is a great contributor, I'd
> have no real way to see if the PPMC was really learning its job.

This is mostly a limitation of being a non-ASF Member.  ASF Members have
access to all of the mailing list archives, including private lists.

> So IMHO, best practice for podlings is to hold a [DISCUSS] Joe Bleau
> for committer on the PPMC private list, followed by a [VOTE] on the
> PPMC private list, and then a formal [VOTE] on the private incubator
> PMC list with references to the discussion and vote of the PPMC.

> Alternatively, hold a [DISCUSS] Joe Bleau for committer on the PPMC
> private list, followed by a [VOTE] on the dev list, and then a formal
> [VOTE] on the incubator list with references to the discussion and
> vote of the community.

The only difference being the formal vote being on the open list, right?

Do you expect people to vote -1 in public, or do you expect the PPMC not
to hold the vote at all if people express negative views?  And do you want
negative views about a Committer to be maintained in perpetuity around the
Internet?  I've certainly seen that raised as a concern, particularly as
more and more employers mine the Internet for information about potential
employees.

	--- Noel

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