Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 65068 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2007 13:54:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Mar 2007 13:54:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 52181 invoked by uid 500); 16 Mar 2007 13:54:54 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52018 invoked by uid 500); 16 Mar 2007 13:54:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52001 invoked by uid 99); 16 Mar 2007 13:54:53 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:54:53 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of yoavshapira@gmail.com designates 72.14.214.238 as permitted sender) Received: from [72.14.214.238] (HELO hu-out-0506.google.com) (72.14.214.238) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:54:42 -0700 Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 28so2413713hug for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:54:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=FEZjWGaQbXh83SF92mewchXB7VQsl7ChClhfrzsaTP5YHlZ0mxCw7EjI24ZqVpdp/0P8yLC91ZXmWnzzYhguUYQA1Q175nzDZh2WrjvIe4JUc4yHSeUT4aPz56W82sl7wCMwsipkZD7atqTmgxJa/z0b76S1Zhssqypc891e6cs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=LOlZPBxZympGHyCYszvDNTl+gmkfUVKv9w6fVPRi7hVRS6EuInve0UpWxAk103OI+vpfyeZYigxjs/1lKMi0SzvsaU0ZIyQZ1VVfqg3ixRZxoG6LrQgB1AaJtZ7hk/F0pW0i/YwpJJiYKMM9B8ggTkWJF4Hv+OwyV5pc428+J7s= Received: by 10.78.181.13 with SMTP id d13mr1011032huf.1174053260602; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.57.13 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:54:20 -0400 From: "Yoav Shapira" Sender: yoavshapira@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Should we treat incubator releases differently to normal releases In-Reply-To: <31cc37360703151823u2099483dn95aeaed8c6752245@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <31cc37360703151823u2099483dn95aeaed8c6752245@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3824b66a5e2587aa X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi, On 3/15/07, Henri Yandell wrote: > Two parts to the vote: > > ONE: Should Incubator tarballs go in the normal place (and thus mirrors). > > [ X ] +1 > [ ] -1 > > TWO: Should there be an Incubator maven repository. > > [ ] +1 > [ ] -1 [ X ] 0 -- don't care We make open-source software, and our users know this. The risk to the ASF brand is if we become like BigCo, not if we release buggy stuff. We shouldn't worry about the brand, we should worry about community. We should Release Early, Release Often, in and out of the Incubator. There are releases of well-established projects in the ASF that are worse than incubating releases on almost every metric. I think the current release oversight process for incubating releases is amply sufficient. As to the Maven repository: that's just an implementation detail. Thinking that it matters is like applying security by obscurity: it just doesn't work. Yoav --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org