Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 19069 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2007 17:23:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Mar 2007 17:23:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 30742 invoked by uid 500); 15 Mar 2007 17:23:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 30620 invoked by uid 500); 15 Mar 2007 17:23:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 30608 invoked by uid 99); 15 Mar 2007 17:23:07 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:23:07 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of bruce.snyder@gmail.com designates 66.249.92.172 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.92.172] (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.172) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:22:56 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so468029uge for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:22:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZDuqf44p7PaLoQj42GoIbxs+YzRXBdcSVsNBsQUEXjU/4yDcnOTywasDtluhHT9msj5wcREQVw+JnMbfTU+xZhnXxvSaa3lnAqCyvDa3HlKU4V/sjln97cobTppG1x1h17Z/u4P9eZQYIG0Bq3aRsv3D+vqGT2gnbJ97+l829n4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HIbWKsAE8OaE0ssv5NwJP0HgSg96x8OwN+aLvWeMV6k97fHDODFgN/2hLhPqpav9pfNkogMzv6buhfRmjYT8Ad+pUvOZy2oZhGiZv8Qy2ytYcqwaBewUyKDbA2Q2RVCUIswy//5br1h9JRIDSWkOT6cQt8m39SQE80yugPiO65M= Received: by 10.82.175.2 with SMTP id x2mr1139505bue.1173979354224; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.117.4 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7b3355cb0703151022ucb905fal89627caba82ba0f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:22:33 -0600 From: "Bruce Snyder" To: general@incubator.apache.org, dims@apache.org Subject: Re: Killing the incubator m2 repository In-Reply-To: <19e0530f0703151014g21d6d3a8t355559c899c25919@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7b3355cb0703150945n35a61aecwf28c41aa247a123e@mail.gmail.com> <19e0530f0703150950q4bf7d632x50b0b9b2e45ef431@mail.gmail.com> <200703151309.09286.daniel.kulp@iona.com> <19e0530f0703151014g21d6d3a8t355559c899c25919@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 3/15/07, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > 5 extra minutes to add an additional entry in a pom.xml is not going > to kill anyone. Can you please point me to email queries from end > users on the podling mailing lists where they say that this was a > pain? Give me a break! But it's not just five extra minutes. Please re-read Daniel's summation. It's even knowing that you need to add another repo, it's pinging that repo every time you build looking for every other artifact, it's not having any alternative when the people.apache.org is inaccessible (and this happens a lot). There's actually much more impact than five minutes. The only reason I'm arguing these points if for users. Has there ever been a situation that necessitated this policy? Bruce -- perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E