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From "Gwyn Evans" <gwyn.ev...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Ratify the release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha
Date Sat, 31 Mar 2007 08:19:33 GMT
On 31/03/07, Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org> wrote:
> On Friday 30 March 2007 17:45, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
> > We consider this release to be for resolving legal issues only, and
> > will not make it available to the general public. The reasoning behind
> > this is that we are still working on some major changes that need time
> > to mature in these weeks. These changes are a direct result of the
> > decision by the Wicket community to discontinue development on trunk
> > (a full discussion can be found here [3]). As such we discourage our
> > users to use this release, because it will not give them a stable
> > platform to work with.
>
> I think the Incubator needs to know a bit more background around the Wicket
> struggles.
>
> 1. When Wicket came to Incubator, I got the idea that 1.x was for bug fixes
> and 2.0 is the new incompatible trunk for development at ASF.

Not quite - the plans were for 1.2.x to be the bug-fixes, 1.3 to be an
Apache release as wicket.* and 2.0 to be the Apache release as
org.apache.wicket.*

> 2. The 2.0 development is hitting major resistence, for more factors than just
> change of package names to org.apache.wicket.

That's misleading - the change of package names to org.apache.wicket.*
isn't an issue at all - What's been discussed is the wisdom of
carrying on with the single feature that effectively means that there
would be two, very dissimilar streams of development.
>
> 3. 2.0 development is sort of cancelled, and work is starting to back port
> most features in 2.0 to the 1.x lineage.
>
> Now, what is happening to the org.apache.wicket naming requirement of classes?

See here[1] for the vote to apply the rename to the 1.3 stream, which
looks to happen shortly.

> This release request is still using "package wicket.*". How do you plan to
> handle this, to satisfy both the Incubator namespace requirement and users
> being upset over incompatibilities?

For the first point, the 1.3 release was always due to be a wicket.*
release, so we understood that using the wicket.* namespace wasn't a
show-stopper - as for the second, this 1.3 release is more to validate
the legal release aspects rather than a release to end-users, so that,
combined with notes such as this[2] and the fact that the mean that it
shouldn't be a problem.  Note that the release is a 1.2 -> 1.3 change,
with all that normally implies, rather than an incremental 1.n.m
release, where we would attempt to keep drop-in compatability.

/Gwyn

[1] http://snipurl.com/1en4c
[2] http://snipurl.com/1en4g

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