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From Niclas Hedhman <>
Subject Re: Difference between Maven repository and dist directory
Date Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:40:47 GMT
On Saturday 17 March 2007 11:40, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

> One significant difference between ASF projects and those in the Incubator
> is that the ASF projects are communities that have already demonstrated
> their ability to operate under ASF policy *and* sustain a development
> community.  Once an Incubator project can do all of that, it should be
> moving out of the Incubator.  That fact that it hasn't left means that it
> still has failings in one of the criteria.

Or just too lazy to get the ball rolling out of the IPMC court yard...

But I do agree that the distinction of "community backed" project is 
important. Whenever I look at projects to use, I will always browse the mail 
archives to get a feel whether there is a real community behind it or not. 
And that goes for ASF ones as well, since many TLPs has subprojects and it 
does happen that those are one-man shows, and in fact "code dies" in ASF when 
the 'rest' are uncapable of picking up the slack.

I still think that Craig/Daniel's arguments of removing the distinction are 
strong, but I would need to see that the release is from the Incubator (and 
in Maven terms, the groupId being o.a.incubator). The "incubating" marker in 
the version should also be required, as many ASF jars will end up in 
delivered products (part of releases (tar.gz) of downstream projects) and I 
would hate to start guessing the origin...


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