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From Daniel Kulp <daniel.k...@iona.com>
Subject Re: Killing the incubator m2 repository
Date Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:09:09 GMT

But by making it difficult, you are making it much more likely that the 
project will get killed/nuked.   You're basically making it difficult 
for the project to grow their community just to make it easier to kill 
the community later if it fails.   

I'd prefer to give the projects the benefit of the doubt and assume the 
project will be successful and help them achieve that success.   Isn't 
that what the goal is?


Dan


On Thursday 15 March 2007 12:50, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> Because projects get killed/nuked as they don't have enough legs to
> stand on literally. You are assuming that every project makes it. It
> doesn't. We have to let people know that they are making a conscious
> choice by making it difficult.
>
> thanks,
> dims
>
> On 3/15/07, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com> wrote:
> > n 3/15/07, Davanum Srinivas <davanum@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > #1) This is by design. We don't want to make it easy.
> >
> > This is what I really don't understand. Why must it be so difficult
> > for users of the incubating projects?
> >
> > Daniel's summation of the situation is very accurate. All the
> > separate repository does is make user's lives more difficult in many
> > ways. IMO, marking project versions with 'incbuating' is enough.
> > However, Niclas's suggestion to use a package name of
> > org.apache.incubator.<project> for incubating projects sounds like a
> > good one as well.
> >
> > As I understand it, the Incubator exists for legal purposes and for
> > projects to learn The Apache Way. Why must the Incubator policies be
> > so restrictive as to make the download of incubating artifacts so
> > difficult?
> >
> > Bruce
> > --
> > perl -e 'print
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > );'
> >
> > Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
> > Apache ActiveMQ - http://activemq.org/
> > Apache ServiceMix - http://servicemix.org/
> > Castor - http://castor.org/

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J. Daniel Kulp
Principal Engineer
IONA
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