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From "Davanum Srinivas" <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Killing the incubator m2 repository
Date Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:32:17 GMT
Please read this thread in its entirety. We've thrashed this topic to
death before.

http://marc.info/?l=incubator-general&m=115699792628108&w=2
http://marc.info/?t=115669727800005&r=1&w=2

-- dims

On 3/16/07, Johnson, Eric <Eric.Johnson@iona.com> wrote:
> Can't any ASL licensed artifact be posted to ibiblio? Does that fact not
> completely circumvent the whole intention of making a separate
> incubating repository?
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:noel@devtech.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:40 AM
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: Killing the incubator m2 repository
> >
> > Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, If the apache projects like say Axis2 and Geronimo set
> > up their
> > > pom's in a certain fashion (using m2's scope=provided
> > mechanism), end
> > > users will have to add incubator repos explicitly/consciously and
> > > won't get podling jars pulled in w/o their knowledge.
> >
> > What's the burden imposed by this on the user?  Does this
> > mean that we could eliminate the Incubator specific
> > repository in favor of <scope>provided</scope>?  And is this
> > an appropriate thing, since if Axis2 or Geronimo do that,
> > doesn't it mean that the jar is no longer packaged with them
> > when they release?  Is that an issue?
> >
> > If the goals are to help protect users from a naive (as
> > contrasted with an
> > informed) dependence on projects that haven't yet earned
> > their ASF-status, and to ensure that Incubator projects
> > aren't just trying to cash in on the ASF-brand without
> > adopting our methods, where are the appropriate lines of control?
> >
> > If (for the sake of argument) WS decides to ship some
> > Incubator JAR as part of some WS release, and is supporting
> > the release are they counting on the Incubator JAR, or on you
> > providing certain functionality?  Of course, that ought to
> > weigh into your own decision to include the JAR in the first place.
> > Would this be the same as a company using Roller in
> > production to sell a service while Roller was still in the
> > Incubator?  A service purchaser is expecting a blog, but
> > perhaps not counting on how that functionality is provided.
> > Should it depend on whether the JAR's API is exposed, or
> > simply some functionality that you can maintain/replace?
> > Again, reflecting back on the goals.
> >
> >       --- Noel
> >
> >
> >
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Davanum Srinivas :: http://wso2.org/ :: Oxygen for Web Services Developers

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