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From "Davanum Srinivas" <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Killing the incubator m2 repository
Date Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:14:52 GMT
5 extra minutes to add an additional entry in a pom.xml is not going
to kill anyone. Can you please point me to email queries from end
users on the podling mailing lists where they say that this was a
pain? Give me a break!

-- dims

On 3/15/07, Daniel Kulp <daniel.kulp@iona.com> wrote:
>
> But by making it difficult, you are making it much more likely that the
> project will get killed/nuked.   You're basically making it difficult
> for the project to grow their community just to make it easier to kill
> the community later if it fails.
>
> I'd prefer to give the projects the benefit of the doubt and assume the
> project will be successful and help them achieve that success.   Isn't
> that what the goal is?
>
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Thursday 15 March 2007 12:50, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > Because projects get killed/nuked as they don't have enough legs to
> > stand on literally. You are assuming that every project makes it. It
> > doesn't. We have to let people know that they are making a conscious
> > choice by making it difficult.
> >
> > thanks,
> > dims
> >
> > On 3/15/07, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > n 3/15/07, Davanum Srinivas <davanum@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > #1) This is by design. We don't want to make it easy.
> > >
> > > This is what I really don't understand. Why must it be so difficult
> > > for users of the incubating projects?
> > >
> > > Daniel's summation of the situation is very accurate. All the
> > > separate repository does is make user's lives more difficult in many
> > > ways. IMO, marking project versions with 'incbuating' is enough.
> > > However, Niclas's suggestion to use a package name of
> > > org.apache.incubator.<project> for incubating projects sounds like a
> > > good one as well.
> > >
> > > As I understand it, the Incubator exists for legal purposes and for
> > > projects to learn The Apache Way. Why must the Incubator policies be
> > > so restrictive as to make the download of incubating artifacts so
> > > difficult?
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > > --
> > > perl -e 'print
> > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > );'
> > >
> > > Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
> > > Apache ActiveMQ - http://activemq.org/
> > > Apache ServiceMix - http://servicemix.org/
> > > Castor - http://castor.org/
>
> --
> J. Daniel Kulp
> Principal Engineer
> IONA
> P: 781-902-8727    C: 508-380-7194
> daniel.kulp@iona.com
> http://www.dankulp.com/blog
>
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