Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 73749 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 15:53:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 15:53:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 24669 invoked by uid 500); 2 Feb 2007 15:53:23 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 24531 invoked by uid 500); 2 Feb 2007 15:53:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 24520 invoked by uid 99); 2 Feb 2007 15:53:22 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 07:53:22 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of davanum@gmail.com designates 66.249.82.232 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.82.232] (HELO wx-out-0506.google.com) (66.249.82.232) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 07:53:13 -0800 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i26so924688wxd for ; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 07:52:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kSlLZtpSL5Z92Tz+NHBoPvPK2XR0lc2kN0tYOyAH4MgS1ZxAzIiOryX0UXKBRbtiiBSCFsWrzmjCHmN9GdOEV0kPkJPuqXGFCf7Zo9dUojb2sTJFCPyGMSKmB39PyrLSmakTqW472Lvbpio//9vo/QuLoock0eazSNl2h4pnKXA= Received: by 10.90.25.3 with SMTP id 3mr5153200agy.1170431572691; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 07:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.106.17 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 07:52:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19e0530f0702020752m1d0d0104p906a99249081df32@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:52:52 -0500 From: "Davanum Srinivas" Reply-To: dims@apache.org To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] TripleSoup - a SPARQL endpoint for httpd In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <62B54503-E13A-4210-BA15-B22B7FAFDC71@leosimons.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org +1 from me. -- dims On 2/2/07, Yoav Shapira wrote: > +1, sounds very interesting. > > Yoav > > On 2/2/07, Leo Simons wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > This is a vote on a previously posted proposal to start a rdf > > database server project at apache. The entire proposal text is > > included below. There is only one change from the one posted to the > > [proposal] thread -- we will start without a triplesoup-users@ > > mailing list. > > > > Please place your votes! > > > > +1 from me. > > > > This vote will run until we have a huge amount of enthousiastic +1s, > > with a sizeable amount of them from the Incubator PMC, and at a > > minimum for 72 hours. If you're not a part of the incubator PMC, > > you're still welcome to express support (or lack of it) for the > > proposal by voting; I will sort out votes when counting. (formal > > voting rules on incubator website) > > > > cheers! > > > > - Leo > > > > --- > > = summary = > > > > TripleSoup is the simplest thing that you can do to turn your apache > > web server into a SPARQL endpoint. > > > > TripleSoup will be an RDF [2] store [3], tooling to work with that > > database, and a REST [4] web interface to talk to that database using > > SPARQL [5], implemented as an apache webserver module. > > > > {{{ > > Target: TLP > > Sponsor: Incubator PMC > > Champion: Leo Simons > > Mentors: Dirk-Willem van Gulik , > > Ben Hyde , > > Stefano Mazzocchi , > > Leo Simons > > Resources: SVN: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ > > triplesoup/ > > Website: http://incubator.apache.org/triplesoup/ > > Jira: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRIPLES > > Wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/triplesoup/ > > Mailing lists: > > triplesoup-dev@incubator.apache.org > > triplesoup-commits@incubator.apache.org > > triplesoup-private@incubator.apache.org > > Moderators: leosimons@apache.org > > stefano@apache.org > > dreid@apache.org > > Initial committers: > > Dave Beckett , redland author > > Dirk-Willem van Gulik , > > Ben Hyde , > > Stefano Mazzocchi , > > Andrea Marchesini , b store > > author > > Alberto Reggiori , rdfstore author > > David Reid , > > Leo Simons > > Initial source: mod_sparql, commercial triple store, > > existing open source triple store > > Known risks: None > > Technologies: c > > Reference: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TripleSoupProposal > > }}} > > > > = Proposal details = > > > > == Technology (basics) == > > > > What is RDF? It is just about any kind of data, represented as > > triples of > > (subject, predicate, object), usually with a rich vocabulary > > describing the > > semantics of the data (with the vocabulary typically also encoded as > > triples). > > > > This data has a representation as RDF/XML as well as using other > > formats such > > as N3, and a query language SPARQL for searching through it. See [6] > > for an > > overview. > > > > So if it is just some data in some format, why does it need a special > > server? Because RDF data is fundamentally not constrained to a > > "file", and > > there often is no "resource identifier" that readily identifies > > something as a > > "document" which can be served up over HTTP. > > > > So why the REST interface? RDF is one of the building blocks proposed > > for the > > "semantic web", and that's why a system that works well with/over > > HTTP is > > needed from the start. > > > > == Technology (concrete) == > > > > This is just an example. Imagine that there is an application > > "someapp" on > > the host foo.example.com which provides access to information about > > books, > > and you want to get a list of those books (their URIs) and the names > > of the > > books. > > > > {{{ > > $ telnet foo.example.com 80 > > SELECT /someapp HTTP/1.0 > > Host: foo.example.com > > Query-Language: http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-rdf-sparql-query-20060406/ > > Accept: application/sparql-results+xml, rdf/xml, rdf/n3 > > > > PREFIX books: > > PREFIX dc: > > SELECT ?book ?title > > WHERE > > { ?book dc:title ?title } > > > > HTTP/1.0 200 Ok > > Content-Type: application/sparql-results+xml > > Content-Length: 1234 > > > > > > > xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" > > xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#" > > xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/sparql-results#"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://example.org/book/book6 > > > > > > Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince > > > > > > > > > > > > Connection closed by foo.example.com > > $ > > }}} > > > > It turns out there's only one book in the database in this example. > > (Sample data taken from http://www.sparql.org/). David Reid has some > > code that > > does something not unlike this already [7], implemented as a httpd > > module, > > using the Redland library [11,12] as its backend store. > > > > == What would you use TripleSoup for? == > > > > * It could be a backend for piggy bank [8]. > > > > * It could be a backend for the next version of wikipedia. > > > > * It could be a backend for an "open" version of iTunes or IMDB. > > > > * It could be the backend for the information management system of the > > Dutch ministry of water management [9]. > > > > * It could be the backend for projects.a.o [10] and similar > > applications. > > > > * Most importantly, it could be a backend for dozens of useful new > > innovative > > projects that no-one has envisioned yet. > > > > == The initial source == > > > > RDFstore is a standalone RDF storage system implemented as a C > > library, licensed > > under the ASL 1.1. It has perl bindings. Find its distribution at [15]. > > > > mod_sparql [7] is an in-development apache module that implements a > > SPARQL > > endpoint. It is licensed under the Apache License 2.0. It uses > > redland as a > > backend. The SVN repository can be found at [7]. > > > > B is an in-development storage backend for Redland implemented as a > > standalone > > C library. It is currently a closed source codebase. A code snapshot > > can be > > found at [16]. > > > > == The initial committers == > > > > Dirk-Willem, Ben, Stefano, David and Leo are ASF members who > > hopefully need no > > introduction. > > > > Dave Beckett is the primary author of the Redland RDF application > > framework. > > > > Alberto Reggiori is the primary author of rdfstore, an rdf store > > developed by > > asemantics [13], which will be contributed to TripleSoup. He is a > > partner at > > asemantics. > > > > Andrea Marchesini is the primary author of B, a storage backend for RDF > > developed at Joost [14], which will be contributed to TripleSoup. > > > > All initial committers have experience working on open source > > projects. They > > work for at least 5 different companies. > > > > == TripleSoup as an apache project == > > > > We think TripleSoup will have to reference dozens of specifications > > from the > > W3C (XML, RDF, OWL, SPARQL, their standards for URIs, and more) and > > from the > > IETF (HTTP, URL, URI, URN, and more), will make use of or integrate > > with quite > > a few existing open source projects (like the redland RDF libraries > > as well as > > apache apr&httpd). As such, it seems like TripleSoup should fit in > > really well > > at apache. > > > > The responses we got from various members of the RDF and semantic web > > communities so far when discussing this proposal with them have all been > > quite positive, and we expect and hope there'll be quite a few people > > new to apache joining the project soon after it starts. > > > > Most importantly, we think this project will be useful, innovative, and > > fun! > > > > = References = > > > > {{{ > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/ > > [2] http://www.w3.org/RDF/ > > [3] these are often called "triple stores" > > [4] http://www.ics.uci.edu/~fielding/pubs/dissertation/ > > rest_arch_style.htm > > [5] http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-query/ > > [6] http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/papers/ac2006.1.pdf > > [7] http://david-reid.com/repos/public/mod_sparql/ > > [8] http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/Piggy_Bank > > [9] http://www.wadi.nl/uk/ > > [10] http://projects.apache.org/ > > [11] http://www.librdf.net/ > > [12] http://svn.librdf.org/repository/ > > [13] http://www.asemantics.com/ > > [14] http://www.joost.com/ > > [15] http://rdfstore.sourceforge.net/downloads/RDFStore-0.51.tar.gz > > [16] http://opensource.joost.com/libb/ > > }}} > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > -- Davanum Srinivas :: http://wso2.org/ :: Oxygen for Web Services Developers --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org