From general-return-12936-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Wed Jan 31 17:38:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 73155 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2007 17:38:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 31 Jan 2007 17:38:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 59946 invoked by uid 500); 31 Jan 2007 17:38:53 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 59823 invoked by uid 500); 31 Jan 2007 17:38:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 59806 invoked by uid 99); 31 Jan 2007 17:38:53 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:38:53 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of davanum@gmail.com designates 64.233.184.228 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.184.228] (HELO wr-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.184.228) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:38:44 -0800 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so264638wra for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:38:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZN3JzFuaLvYogiBKGv02dEUhbk0s6FuvPjvkj/R0aumGEf4puaCoW5n4r+F+U3zJmmLJ34da3wqQMquUTDcDxAZiskbNx6HP1wSo2/h1hPkcpBEH5PU0tOQR6x9eFi2V/eYZVrLiQ4kqJtDZlVl+L9oIKr4PgVMMJThN1izWjZg= Received: by 10.90.89.5 with SMTP id m5mr1555439agb.1170265103008; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:38:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.106.17 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:38:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19e0530f0701310938k7df8b41n7b4952bbcfb201cf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:38:22 -0500 From: "Davanum Srinivas" Reply-To: dims@apache.org To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Change to Board reporting process In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5c902b9e0701310053m6e1ae6a8tbf110f1d3a364f8e@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org +1. How about we add a section on the wiki page where each pmc member can signoff as having reviewed the report. -- dims On 1/31/07, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > > > The only thing that slightly annoyed the Board was that *we* had to > > red-flag it - which means that the Incubator PMC is not reviewing > > the reports as a whole before it is sent to the Board. > > I wonder if anyone other than me is reading everything before or even after > it is submitted. And without the Mentors actively flagging "HOUSTON, WE > HAVE A *PROBLEM*", it is likely that people skim reports without noticing > the problem. > > > One suggestion could be to have an IRC (or even via phone) meeting > > of the Incubator PMC before the Board meeting > > That would almost certainly be logistically infeasible. On a personal note, > it would likely result in my resigning as PMC Chair for the same reason that > I annually disqualify myself from running for Board election. However, if > the goal is to prod the Incubator PMC into more closely reviewing the status > reports, we could try an alternative. > > For example, rather than close the cat-herding the weekend before the report > is due (and, factually, finishing herding tardy projects the day that the > report is filed), we could set a cut-off of the second Monday of each month, > or similarly appropriate date, and give the PMC a week to review and approve > the report before it is submitted to the Board. > > --- Noel > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > -- Davanum Srinivas :: http://wso2.org/ :: Oxygen for Web Services Developers --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org