From general-return-12538-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Fri Dec 08 01:33:42 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 16606 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2006 01:33:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Dec 2006 01:33:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 98942 invoked by uid 500); 8 Dec 2006 01:33:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 98404 invoked by uid 500); 8 Dec 2006 01:33:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 98250 invoked by uid 99); 8 Dec 2006 01:33:41 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:33:41 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of Daniel.Kulp@iona.com designates 65.223.216.181 as permitted sender) Received: from [65.223.216.181] (HELO amereast-smg1.iona.com) (65.223.216.181) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:33:29 -0800 Received: from amer-ems1.IONAGLOBAL.COM ([10.65.6.25]) by amereast-smg1.iona.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id kB81Wk0n004280; Thu, 7 Dec 2006 20:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.59.0.35] ([10.59.0.35]) by amer-ems1.IONAGLOBAL.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 7 Dec 2006 20:33:08 -0500 From: Daniel Kulp Organization: IONA To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Deploying Incubator Maven Artifacts [was Re: [VOTE] Apache Incubator CXF 2.0-M1 Release (RC 3)] Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 20:33:06 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 Cc: cxf-dev@incubator.apache.org, abdera-dev@incubator.apache.org References: <7b774c950612071500j5e95562axf3e68f27bd04afe3@mail.gmail.com> <7b774c950612071609o6716f1f1o62ffebfd72d1f79b@mail.gmail.com> <968D0144-B486-4FA0-BE76-372BD4F0A396@gbiv.com> In-Reply-To: <968D0144-B486-4FA0-BE76-372BD4F0A396@gbiv.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200612072033.06965.daniel.kulp@iona.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2006 01:33:08.0193 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0989510:01C71A68] X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Thursday 07 December 2006 19:59, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > On Dec 7, 2006, at 4:09 PM, Dan Diephouse wrote: > > I must be missing something. If they aren't voted on, how do you know > > if they're valid and meet release requirements? > > It is impossible to verify that in a binary. We have to trust the > person building it to do so according to an approved script. If people > want to push a given set of binaries through a QA process and vote on > the results, more power to 'em -- anything posted to our webservers is > subject to voting if desired. However, they are just fooling themselves > if they think testing the binary is sufficient to verify that the binary > actually matches the source version. > > "Real" open source developers build their own. ;-) So by this theory, we could have just called a vote on the source/binary distributions in which case the javadoc issue would not have appeared at all. (that javadoc jar doesn't appear there) Correct? Thus, if the vote passed on that, we could then proceed to "mvn deploy" which would have resulted in the javadoc jar without the notice/license in it being put in the Maven repository for the world to use. I'm just trying to clarify this for future reference. I personally think that's a bad practice, but if that's OK for Apache, fine. We'll keep that in mind for the future. -- J. Daniel Kulp Principal Engineer IONA P: 781-902-8727 C: 508-380-7194 daniel.kulp@iona.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org