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From "Davanum Srinivas" <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Competing projects was Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, "River" (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)
Date Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:35:15 GMT
Is this about competing podlings? or existing projects/new podlings?

-- dims

On 12/26/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <wrowe@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >
> > On Dec 23, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> >
> >> I think it's a concern because the precedent puts the podling on the
> >> defensive and in the mind set of "oh, if there's a competing project,
> >> we won't accept you."  The fact that there's a project already here
> >> that 'competes' is irrelevant to us and I don't want to confuse the
> >> podlings into thinking that's a criteria when it's certainly not.  --
> >
> > Ah, I see your point. My PoV is that it's better to nip
> > any such things in the bud first. This places those
> > who would complain on the defensive ;)
> >
> > But competition is a fact of the real world, and
> > for some podlings its a prime factor *for* its
> > inclusion. But it should never be a factor
> > for its rejection.
>
> Depends.  We shouldn't reject a podling with overlapping scope that
> differs from another podling in engineering / design paradigms.
>
> We bloody well should think twice before accepting a competing podling
> that differs mostly in personalities.  Been there, done that, archived
> the bloodshed in apmail.  When we have two competing communities because
> folks can't accept the simplest ASF meritocracy and let code speak for
> itself, one, the other, or both are broken :)
>
> ASF projects are unique.  People can truly dislike others in the same
> project, and yet collaborate towards a common goal.  Not that this
> is healthy for the people, but the projects and communities should
> survive personality conflicts when they are operating properly.
>
>
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Davanum Srinivas : http://www.wso2.net (Oxygen for Web Service Developers)

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