Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 47953 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 13:08:56 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Nov 2006 13:08:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 64258 invoked by uid 500); 4 Nov 2006 13:09:04 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 64095 invoked by uid 500); 4 Nov 2006 13:09:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 64084 invoked by uid 99); 4 Nov 2006 13:09:04 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:09:04 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com designates 66.249.92.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.92.175] (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:08:50 -0800 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so782034uge for ; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:08:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Bx4LUqdAvQacuVL+CCQTKuhVs974H/9I5QY2lolKJHUBlm/rHdt92GYJ1qiY0t6EKHrcC8kLO0b+YvwJzxZY2Ux7QJy1Gm7ch6/3gox+OyJ9SoreSzWWXfAx/VQFAzOZ5dFTQW8AfAF9m0u8E3BRlc/r1a1upAnretKry4VVdLE= Received: by 10.67.117.2 with SMTP id u2mr4303103ugm.1162645708639; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.30.13 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 05:08:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:08:28 +0000 From: "robert burrell donkin" To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: clarification on SF license and sandboxes In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9deac9fd0611010647v3e6157bej46fb1cf396239274@mail.gmail.com> <69D27B25-F65B-41C1-88DE-BB60D988B01C@SUN.com> <31cc37360611011611w522070c4s57fed0460acce1e2@mail.gmail.com> <16d6c6200611011857g7a88b914n4302b543f00ec470@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 11/2/06, Craig L Russell wrote: > Hi Martin, > > Thanks for your comments. They seem to contradict what Henri is > saying. Can we continue this discussion until we reach some conclusion? from a legal perspective: "5. Submission of Contributions. Unless You explicitly state otherwise, any Contribution intentionally submitted for inclusion in the Work by You to the Licensor shall be under the terms and conditions of this License, without any additional terms or conditions. Notwithstanding the above, nothing herein shall supersede or modify the terms of any separate license agreement you may have executed with Licensor regarding such Contributions." selecting the 'no' checkbox seems to reasonably explicit to me however, if copyright cannot be claimed on a patch then this is not relevant. AIUI US copyright law does not allow copyright to be claimed on unoriginal works or technical works capable of only one reasonable and correct solution. some bug fixes fall into this category. so, it isn't always necessary to gain explicit permission but it's almost always a good idea. from an ethically perspective, i think that an effort should be made to gain active permission whenever the user does not make their intentions clear. - robert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org