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From: Paul Hammant <paul@hammant.org>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Retire AltRMI
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:36:13 +0000
To: Incubator General <general@incubator.apache.org>

The mentor and lead (cough) I mean person who made most commits. I've  
also voted +1 for retirement@ Apache.

There are tons of things wrong with AltRMI that precluded a 1.0  
release.   That notwithstanding the fact that it went out in a couple  
of releases of http://enterpriseobjectbroker.org/

   * the callback side of it (duplex if you like) had some flaws in  
that it would not scale very well and would create problems in the  
attempt to recover a connection
   * there are some logical holes in the client/server  
communication ... handshaking if you will
   * nothing about it is robust or hardened against hackers.
   * its Stub generator (Javac based) was well past in sell by date,  
and one could suggest in the age of dynamic proxies is not needed
   * 20% of its code was bound to Avalon which just ain't needed  
these days.
   * coverage was pretty low. no unit tests, although many  
integration tests
   * arcane naming of classes, methods and concepts.
   * I could go on..

As it happens a massively reworked version lives at Codehaus ->  
http://svn.jremoting.codehaus.org/ (no site) with many features  
deleted. It is a fork yes. Most of the code that survives has a  
copyright statement crediting Apache - like http:// 
svn.jremoting.codehaus.org/browse/jremoting/jremoting/trunk/api/src/ 
java/org/codehaus/jremoting/server/StubRetriever.java  A much smaller  
number of genuinely new classes are copyrighted to just "The  
JRemoting Committers" - http://svn.jremoting.codehaus.org/browse/ 
jremoting/jremoting/trunk/server/src/java/org/codehaus/jremoting/ 
server/transports/ServerXStreamDriver.java  All is Apache licensed of  
course rather than my more usual BSD

Regards,

- Paul


On Nov 6, 2006, at 10:06 PM, Leo Simons wrote:

> On Nov 6, 2006, at 9:01 PM, peter royal wrote:
>> The AltRMI podling, <http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ 
>> altrmi.html> has become stagnant. Here is a vote to move it into  
>> retirement.
>>
>> [ ] -1 : It lives on, you someone missed my recent commits on it  
>> last week
>> [ ]  0 : I don't do fall cleansing
>> [ ] +1 : Move to retirement
>>
>> Here's my +1
>
> +1.
>
> Shame though. Such a great codebase it is. So much "just works"  
> feeling attached to it no-one needs to work on it.
>
> Heh. Perhaps we can prod some of its contributors (who moved on to  
> bigger and greater things long ago as far as I know) to contribute  
> some of the good bits as a replacement RMI module to Harmony, and  
> have AltRMI eclipse RMI many years after it was first envisioned.
>
> Or maybe not :)
>
> cheers,
>
> Leo
>


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