Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 70650 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2006 18:42:13 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 9 Nov 2006 18:42:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 39010 invoked by uid 500); 9 Nov 2006 18:42:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 38867 invoked by uid 500); 9 Nov 2006 18:42:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 38856 invoked by uid 99); 9 Nov 2006 18:42:20 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:42:20 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of igor.vaynberg@gmail.com designates 64.233.184.229 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.184.229] (HELO wr-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.184.229) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:42:06 -0800 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i22so155479wra for ; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:41:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iQafhHu8nY+STke5gQ7kOMPBsrnNnE/SfP+IJHHaHK+KZf5ptcoN7cea+QFV0/3p3fbpS/zsRCdDHW8TauHDdSrmXZNMHisnypY2lSW2LUlywC4rNTbFD9a8A+beuAnWzGSVKZXtz0DT96SCtHfBIssE6mNPm/r7GZSstoHzH1w= Received: by 10.78.149.15 with SMTP id w15mr1438279hud.1163097704194; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.121.10 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 10:41:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <23eb48360611091041u3e5cb76me6bb9fddcc0abb9f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 10:41:43 -0800 From: "Igor Vaynberg" To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: wikis In-Reply-To: <7edfeeef0611091022l509acdafqbbfb90eeb6f7e7b3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_44995_26970536.1163097703780" References: <8DA58330BA060E41AB52B73294034EA61488AF@amer-ems1.IONAGLOBAL.COM> <5c902b9e0611090833h76efa41at7662172c17158699@mail.gmail.com> <7edfeeef0611090934v21fa3a4at5749f2cb73fb1250@mail.gmail.com> <23eb48360611090959yaf4d885u9600738558f5218f@mail.gmail.com> <7edfeeef0611091022l509acdafqbbfb90eeb6f7e7b3@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_44995_26970536.1163097703780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 11/9/06, Garrett Rooney wrote: > > On 11/9/06, Igor Vaynberg wrote: > > > this is not a kind of attitude i would expect from a professional > > organization. a big part of joining apache is the desire for a stable > and > > maintained infrastructure. we (wicket) came here from sf.net. things > used to > > go down there all the time, but they would get fixed - it wasnt a matter > of > > a "want" but part of the service they provide. sorry to rant, but its > very > > disappointing to see things like these here. > > This is no different than any other volunteer driven project. If > someone showed up at Wicket and demanded that their bug in an obscure > part of the system get immediate attention despite the fact that > everyone was busy working on other things I doubt you'd all jump up, > drop what you're doing and go fix their problem, so why are you > surprised when that happens in other places? firstly no one is demanding anything, just expressing an opinion. it really depends on how you define "obscure". imho a wiki is not an obscure part of the infrastructure because most projects use it/need it. if the service is not maintained properly or there is a lack of resources to maintain it at least for a somewhat long term then i dont think it should be offered at all. we put a lot of energy into building up our wiki, and so do our users. it would be a shame to see all that work disappear because there was a "lack of volunteers". -igor -garrett > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > ------=_Part_44995_26970536.1163097703780--