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From Craig L Russell <Craig.Russ...@Sun.COM>
Subject Re: Maven pom, groupId and version for incubating projects
Date Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:04:07 GMT
Hi Jason,

On Nov 15, 2006, at 10:55 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:

>
> On 15 Nov 06, at 8:34 PM 15 Nov 06, Craig L Russell wrote:
>
>> Hate to quibble, but incubating is a gerund used as an adjective. ;-)
>>
>> I also think of alpha and beta as adjectives also, as in "the  
>> alpha version", alpha being an adjective modifying version.
>>
>> Bottom line, I like incubating, as it describes the release, as  
>> opposed to incubator which isn't very descriptive.
>>
>
> Make up what you like, it's really only important that they all be  
> done the same way.

I hate to be querulous, but why is it important that all be done the  
same way? "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" --  
Emerson.

What makes this consistency an important, wise, or necessary one?

Craig
>
> Jason.
>
>> Craig
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Stephen Duncan wrote:
>>
>>> I think incubating here is being used in noun form as a gerund... ;)
>>>
>>> -Stephen
>>>
>>> On 11/15/06, Jason van Zyl <jason@maven.org> wrote:
>>>> On 12 Nov 06, at 6:17 PM 12 Nov 06, Henri Yandell wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > incubating appears to be the more common - let's make incubating
>>>> > our standard.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> As a qualifier a noun should be used like alpha, beta,  
>>>> milestone. No
>>>> one generally uses verbs in a version like incubating. Also because
>>>> it's just the version we're using you might want 1.0-SNAPSHOT- 
>>>> apache-
>>>> incubator if you want to be entirely clear.
>>>>
>>>> Jason.
>>>>
>>>> > Hen
>>>> >
>>>> > On 11/12/06, Stephen Duncan <stephen.duncan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> Abdera uses incubating.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -Stephen
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 11/11/06, Daniel Kulp <daniel.kulp@iona.com> wrote:
>>>> >> > On Saturday November 11 2006 3:51 pm, Wendy Smoak wrote:
>>>> >> > > On 11/11/06, Martijn Dashorst  
>>>> <martijn.dashorst@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> > > > Or is it ok to do:
>>>> >> > > >
>>>> >> > > > <groupId>org.apache.wicket</groupid>
>>>> >> > > > <artifactId>wicket-parent</artifactId>
>>>> >> > > > <version>1.3-incubating-SNAPSHOT</version>
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > From a Maven point of view, this one is preferable so
 
>>>> that the
>>>> >> groupId
>>>> >> > > and artifactId will not have to change after graduation.
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > It also meets the requirement (convention?) of having
>>>> >> "incubating" in
>>>> >> > > the artifact name.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Next question:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Should it be:
>>>> >> > 1.3-incubating-SNAPSHOT
>>>> >> > or:
>>>> >> > 1.3-incubator-SNAPSHOT
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Basically, is it supposed to be what the project is doing
>>>> >> (incubating) or
>>>> >> > where the artifact came from (the incubator)?   Noun or verb?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > CXF and Tuscany are currently using incubator.   Yoko is using
>>>> >> incubating.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Does it matter?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> > J. Daniel Kulp
>>>> >> > Principal Engineer
>>>> >> > IONA
>>>> >> > P: 781-902-8727    C: 508-380-7194   F:781-902-8001
>>>> >> > daniel.kulp@iona.com
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
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>> Craig Russell
>> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/ 
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Craig Russell
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