Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 16592 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2006 13:02:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Oct 2006 13:02:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 31565 invoked by uid 500); 20 Oct 2006 13:01:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 31424 invoked by uid 500); 20 Oct 2006 13:01:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 31413 invoked by uid 99); 20 Oct 2006 13:01:56 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:01:56 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com designates 66.249.92.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.92.175] (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:01:56 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so889853uge for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:01:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IeZJQuseVicrKvUQknKMtJhQTyf/EuieHwGA7Q8rW5ExraLbCoo1xgR7dS/HH1x0FT+mXYz92fZPl7m3DTfymYSJLYhnCd4H+NKAGwhCm1PQOJx7cquGVACkME24/MSA0PUA8dMvk2jwjo+ZSmBy8vfb2/L6CZCC90rLzaFzXig= Received: by 10.67.117.2 with SMTP id u2mr1781666ugm; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.30.13 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:01:34 +0100 From: "robert burrell donkin" To: general@incubator.apache.org, geir@pobox.com Subject: Re: Forrest? Trees? In-Reply-To: <45384017.8060207@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45384017.8060207@pobox.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On 10/20/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > I'm pretty resigned to the fact that we're not going to be able to > present a resolution to the board this month for Harmony. I do keep a > flicker of hope, mainly because I'm an eternal optimist. > > I do think it's a shame, because I believe the core values sought and > taught in the incubation process are community and IP provenance, and I > think Harmony has that in ample quantity. I think that those are the > core strengths of any Apache project, the necessary toolset needed by a > community. > > Sure, there are minor nits in a few missing license headers in some > scripts or CSS files or whatever, and it's good to point them out > because these details are very important, but I think we're missing the > bigger picture here. These kinds of things don't reflect any defects > in the community IMO - they're buried in the noise. It's just an > oversight. yep i think that fixing up the technical side of the release process should be ok once the time comes (now that the community is aware). i also think that the community is strong enough to survive the social side. - robert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org