Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 58947 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2006 05:51:28 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Oct 2006 05:51:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 95753 invoked by uid 500); 24 Oct 2006 09:11:38 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 95614 invoked by uid 500); 24 Oct 2006 09:11:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 95602 invoked by uid 99); 24 Oct 2006 09:11:38 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:11:38 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [69.55.225.129] (HELO ehatchersolutions.com) (69.55.225.129) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:11:24 -0700 Received: by ehatchersolutions.com (Postfix, from userid 504) id 02C4430EFC1A; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:11:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on javelina X-Spam-Level: Received: from [10.0.1.2] (va-71-53-203-135.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [71.53.203.135]) by ehatchersolutions.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D61C30EFC16 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <453D4F3A.9030207@jetnet.co.uk> References: <635a05060610231103l5953da37ub77456013a0046ea@mail.gmail.com> <453D4727.7060302@jetnet.co.uk> <19e0530f0610231558y7c7d60c6yef0b9af0080454c0@mail.gmail.com> <453D4F3A.9030207@jetnet.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Erik Hatcher Subject: Re: voting was Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:10:59 -0400 To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Old-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.1.1 On Oct 23, 2006, at 7:24 PM, david reid wrote: > Davanum Srinivas wrote: >> it's a hint that the voter is a pmc member. > > *sigh* > > Really, no, seriously, you're telling me that the PMC can't be trusted > to count votes from it's members and others it feels are qualified? It's surely easier to count the votes that officially count when it's specified. There have been requests on prior votes to have this specified. > Seriously, pointing out such differences just splits the community. > > "Hey, my vote counts! Yours doesn't!" Well, formally the community _is_ split - there are PMC members and there are non-PMC members, and there are contributors, etc. So there are most definitely "groups" here. The good news is that by volunteering and scratching your itches, you can be in any role you like. I'm personally on the very lame side of a PMC member status, and don't really even feel part of the incubator at all other than to follow along with a couple of pet projects. > After seeing the people involved in the incubator at AC US, I'm pretty > sure they were all past the stage of being impressed by such > things. We > should get over ourselves. It is not being done to impress anyone, but rather to assist those tallying votes by request. I'm happy to drop it though, and "just vote" - I've often forgotten to mention the binding nature of my votes anyway. Erik > >>>> +1 (binding) >>> >>> Forgive my ignorance, but what does "+1 (binding)" mean? >>> >>> -- >>> david >>> >>> http://feathercast.org/ >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > david > > Have you listened to FeatherCast yet? > http://feathercast.org/ > > Bought the t-shirt? > http://www.cafepress.com/feathercast/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org