Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 74370 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2006 19:08:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 18 Oct 2006 19:08:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 37940 invoked by uid 500); 18 Oct 2006 19:08:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 37482 invoked by uid 500); 18 Oct 2006 19:08:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 37470 invoked by uid 99); 18 Oct 2006 19:08:08 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:08:08 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [24.25.9.103] (HELO ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com) (24.25.9.103) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:08:07 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.104] (cpe-066-057-027-065.nc.res.rr.com [66.57.27.65]) by ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9IJ7jXg001384 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <45367B80.5030202@apache.org> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:07:44 -0400 From: Sam Ruby User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation References: <45345FA6.6030605@pobox.com> <200610171030.31551.daniel.kulp@iona.com> <45350ECC.4060104@pobox.com> <254F7CBE-27B6-4C62-B5C5-B0EC32D3332D@gbiv.com> <453648AF.1080803@apache.org> <5c902b9e0610181056k2c4163bfibf0b7d311c7b1e45@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5c902b9e0610181056k2c4163bfibf0b7d311c7b1e45@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On 10/18/06, Sam Ruby wrote: >> At ApacheCon, it was noticed that at the present time the number of >> podlings exceeds the number of Apache projects (I believe the figures >> quoted were 37 to 35). >> >> I am of the opinion that the pendulum has swung too far - we seem to >> have a number of potential projects effectively "parked" in incubation. >> >> In the case of Harmony, I would be prepared to vote for graduation. > > As long as the Harmony PPMC has demonstrated that it can manage itself > (a very good sign of this is adding new committers and/or conducting a > release), then, IMHO, it's ready to graduate. But, I'm not willing to > compromise on that to rush projects out of the Incubator. We've all > seen the hell that happens when we approve podlings too soon. -- "rush projects"? - again imputing motivation. Stop that. :-) At the moment, we have multiple projects in "active" incubation since 2003. As somebody () so colorfully put it last week, there is no need to be "polishing turds" here. There has to be a happy medium between "rushing projects", and only graduating four projects in the last 12 months. - Sam Ruby --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org