Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 93552 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2006 17:49:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Oct 2006 17:49:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 88102 invoked by uid 500); 2 Oct 2006 17:49:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 87754 invoked by uid 500); 2 Oct 2006 17:49:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 87743 invoked by uid 99); 2 Oct 2006 17:49:57 -0000 Received: from idunn.apache.osuosl.org (HELO idunn.apache.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.84) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:49:57 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests= Received: from [207.113.241.148] ([207.113.241.148:53337] helo=iss04.interliant.com) by idunn.apache.osuosl.org (ecelerity 2.1.1.8 r(12930)) with ESMTP id 66/33-24395-04151254 for ; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:49:54 -0700 Received: from EX-007.mail.navisite.com (ex-007.interliant.com [207.113.240.186]) by iss04.interliant.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id k92HnmR24069 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 12:49:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.0.168] ([213.202.104.103]) by EX-007.mail.navisite.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 2 Oct 2006 12:49:40 -0500 Message-ID: <45215130.9060103@apache.org> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:49:36 +0200 From: Mladen Turk User-Agent: Mozilla MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Policy on Initial Committership References: <7edfeeef0610020805l2a44a139te978ee53c07370da@mail.gmail.com> <7edfeeef0610020941l4e2b5f3ew5f9eac007c78abe0@mail.gmail.com> <113EF665-42F9-4DAB-A918-7CF089D2A2BB@jboss.com> <26A4D8BD-6B52-45F4-BBA6-3044C222057C@jaguNET.com> In-Reply-To: <26A4D8BD-6B52-45F4-BBA6-3044C222057C@jaguNET.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2006 17:49:41.0183 (UTC) FILETIME=[231014F0:01C6E64B] X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On Oct 2, 2006, at 12:51 PM, Mark Little wrote: > >> That kind of depends what you're used to now doesn't it? In some >> circles really getting involved actively can best be done (can only be >> done) with committer rights. > > That's not how the ASF works or has ever worked. Right, but we all know what the real problem is ;) I was against that project from start, because some members proposed as commiters were bitching ASF for years. Now, it seems that even inside that project there are some irregularities that do not follow the ASF rules (well, at least the ASF spirit). I simply do not see how that incubated project can evolve to the real ASF project with proper community bearing so many problems around itself. Do we really need that? Regards, Mladen. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org