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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject RE: Policy on Initial Committership
Date Sun, 08 Oct 2006 06:09:49 GMT
Niclas Hedhman wrote:

> This has been a long thread to go thru for someone absent for a while.


This has been an even longer thread for those who haven't been absent!  :-)

> If the Proposer controls the Proposal (and not stick it on a freely
> Wiki), then isn't it very straight forward?

It might be, except for the fact that we've had proposals going through
third parties, and then trying to understand how their proposal got

> You feel excluded (I have); Convince the Proposor that you belong.

And if the proposer is being exclusory?  One of the tasks we have here in
the Incubator is to correct such improper behavior.

> You feel "piling on" is happening; Ask the Proposer to qualify the
> criteria, and have a dialog if you find it "inappropriate".

My thought is to have the Champion (at last, a role for the Champion) vet
each and every name on the propose committer list, and justify them so that
we can vote on them when we vote on the project.

> If we change the wording in Graduation Criteria to include "maximum 30% of
> committers from the same company", then that excessive initial PPMC on the
> Proposal quickly becomes a handicap.

Well, Roy went the other way, and suggested that having even a handful of
independent people was sufficient, when one of the BEA projects was having
trouble with that as its last unmet criteria.

	--- Noel

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