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From "robert burrell donkin" <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of ServiceMix 3.0-incubating
Date Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:26:47 GMT
On 9/14/06, Guillaume Nodet <gnodet@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> robert burrell donkin wrote:

> > OASIS and W3C licensed documents are contained in the source. IANAL
> > (this probably needs checking with legal) but they look ok to me. i
> > suspect that the W3C copyright license requires that the appropriate
> > note is placed in the NOTICE.
> >
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/trunk/servicemix-wsn2005/src/main/resources/org/apache/servicemix/wsn/2001/XMLSchema.dtd
> >
> > ,
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/trunk/servicemix-wsn2005/src/main/resources/org/apache/servicemix/wsn/2001/XMLSchema.xsd
> >
> > and
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/trunk/servicemix-wsn2005/src/main/resources/org/apache/servicemix/wsn/2001/datatypes.dtd
> >
> These are verbatim copies of the ones published by w3c.
> See http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema.dtd,
> http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema.xsd and
> http://www.w3.org/2001/datatypes.dtd

guessed so

> I will try to follow the license I have just found at
> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-documents-20021231

good

i think that we need to add a section to the notice but i'll check
with legal-discuss. the answer then probably needs to be added to the
release documentation on www.apache.org.

> > lack copyright notices. think that these documents should be
> > licensable under w3c copyright policy. is this right?
> >
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/trunk/servicemix-common/src/test/resources/wsn/xml.xsd
> >
> > worries me. it lacks a copyright header. was this developed at
> > apache...?
> >
> > ditto for
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/trunk/servicemix-wsn2005/src/main/resources/org/apache/servicemix/wsn/xml.xsd
> >
> These are the same files.  Why are you worried about them ? I guess the
> same policy than for the three above applies,
> as it is a W3C document.

thought they were but needed to check. these documents lack copyright
notices. this may cause issues in some jurisdictions (but probably not
the US).

<snip>

> These files are templates and are processed to produce actual files.

guessed so

> They are meant to be processed and uses as a basis for users-code,
> I thought it was not a good idea to put copyrights on them, but ...

i agree that it is not a good idea to generate files with copyrights in them.

however, they are source code and where this is possible it is good to
have headers. if the templating language allows comments (which do not
end up in the generated document) then the best approach is to use
these. if this is not possible then it's probably best not to include
headers and instead add a README to the directory with the header and
indicating that these files are offered under the ASL.

- robert

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