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From: "Noel J. Bergman" <noel@devtech.com>
To: <general@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: RE: Specifications as (part of) ASF projects
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:09:03 -0400
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Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>>> Wait ... why can't a specification be a releasable, just like a
>>>> codebase?  The only issue, as I see it, would be enforcement of
>>>> compliance.  And Roy even put forward a proposed license amendment
>>>> for such things.
>>> Which license amendment?  The license amendment that I'm thinking of =
was
>>> specific to JCP TCKs and how derivative works of a TCK can't be used =
for
>>> compatibility - it had nothing to do w/ enforcement of compliance =
with a
>>> spec.

> <grrr mail client changed?>

Not for the past 6 years.  Would love the chance, and still waiting for =
someone to get clueful about migrating Outlook in its entirety, and not =
just a piece here and there.  I've got >4.5GB of mail to migrate, plus =
1000s of contact and calendar entries.

> > The JSR licemse, not the TCK license. =20

> I don't remember a JSR license.

I was referring to =
http://www.apache.org/licenses/proposed/JSR-LICENSE-2.0.txt, which could =
be adapted for the purpose.

> > what else would you call the clauses forbidding the use of the
> > trademark names, references to the specification, and restricted=20
> > name space unless the code passed the TCK?

> Dunno, but different than enforced compliance.

Denying implementers the ability to use the specification's restricted =
name space, which effects the use of the API; make any reference to the =
specification; or use the trademark(s) is probably about right when =
dealing with Open Source.

	--- Noel



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