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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:52:30 -0400
From: Dan Diephouse <dan@envoisolutions.com>
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Subject: Re: [policy] incubating projects and maven repositories v1.0
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Why?

Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> If it comes to a VOTE, i'd vote -1 on automatic syncing of incubator
> artifacts to maven central repo.
>
> -- dims
>
> On 8/30/06, Dan Diephouse <dan@envoisolutions.com> wrote:
>> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > It looks like people objected to creating another mailing list for
>> > policy so I just used [policy] as Robert did in a previous message.
>> >
>> > Henri has setup Maven repositories for the incubator and there is a
>> > document which is an attempt to describe the current setup here:
>> >
>> > http://www.apache.org/dev/repository-faq.html
>> >
>> > I think that everyone agrees that a separate repository for incubating
>> > projects is a good idea as
>> >
>> > 1) you can clearly see what incubator artifacts have been created
>> > 2) we can perform analysis and create reports for incubator artifacts
>> > easily (using Archiva, the maven repository manager)
>> > 3) separating the administration duties of the incubator repository is
>> > a good idea I think. This might involve a different instance of
>> > Archiva and/or different people looking after the respective 
>> repositories
>> >
>> > I haven't looked at all the projects using Maven in the incubator but
>> > cxf, the one I'm most involved with, looks like its settling on
>> > versions like:
>> >
>> > 2.0-incubator-SNAPSHOT
>> >
>> > So the repository is clearly separated, and from a dependency element
>> > in a Maven POM you can clearly see it's an incubator version.
>> >
>> > There was discussion that incubator repository would not be sync'd to
>> > the central repository but I don't really see much point in this. A
>> > few folks with incubating projects have voiced concerns that they
>> > don't want to see their projects be taken out of circulation in the
>> > central repository because they are incubating. If each and every
>> > incubating project has a version for each artifact like that above
>> > then it will be fairly clear that it's from the incubator. Moreso then
>> > if you just had a repository definition pointing at the incubator
>> > repository.
>> >
>> > Also someone may make an repository request to place an incubator
>> > artifact in the central repository and at this point a policy mandated
>> > here would conflict with someone's right to redistribute artifacts
>> > created in the incubator. I don't really want to get into the business
>> > of policing repository requests. I think it is in the best interests
>> > of the  incubating projects to have the incubator repository sync'd to
>> > Maven's central repository. The source of artifacts for incubating
>> > projects is clear from the version so I don't think there will be any
>> > confusion by consumers of these artifacts and as such I don't really
>> > see any downside to allowing the sync to Maven's central repository.
>> >
>> > Thoughts?
>> >
>> > Jason van Zyl
>> > jason@maven.org
>>
>> +1.
>>
>> - Dan
>>
>> -- 
>> Dan Diephouse
>> Envoi Solutions
>> http://envoisolutions.com
>> http://netzooid.com/blog
>>
>>
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