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From Bob Scheifler <Bob.Scheif...@Sun.COM>
Subject Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects
Date Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:55:58 GMT
Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>I'm not convinced the goal in the past was to have multiple
>>implementations, vs allowing multiple implementations.
> 
> I think the interpretation of this goal underlies both the naming and
> standard issues. In essence, does the Jini community see the project
> being proposed as *the* Jini implementation or as *a* Jini
> implementation?

Again not to nitpick, but both choices you present assume that
there is an agreed upon definition of what "Jini" is, and that it
aligns with the contents of the proposed project, and that there is
consensus in the community.  I don't think any of those hold. :)
But despite all of that, I believe you'll find relatively few people
in the Jini community who are unhappy with "Apache Jini" as the
proposed ASF project name.

You will find many different views of what "Jini" is.  I think
you'll find rough agreement that some large subset of the specs
for what's being proposed as the starting point for the project
is at the heart of what Jini is, but you'll find disagreement
both at the edges and in the middle as to what the heart is, and
disagreement as to whether anything else done in the community
is or isn't part of "Jini".  As for "the" vs "a", despite Sun's best
effort in the past to put the "a" label on Sun's implementations of
the various specs, the Starter Kit distribution (as a whole) from Sun
is I think viewed by many as "the", even though when pressed they
will acknowledge that there are other implementations of some of
the pieces, and that other implementations of all of the pieces
are possible.  (I don't find any of this surprising.)

Going forward, without a standards process, agreement on what
"Jini" is may well be even harder to come by; or depending on how
the ASF project evolves, it may become easier and more synonymous
with the specs and/or code produced by the project.  Right now
I don't see anyone in the community really disagreeing about the
initial contributions for the project, but I don't think we have
consensus on where the project should evolve to; I think that's
something that gets worked on during incubation.

- Bob

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