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From Bob Scheifler <Bob.Scheif...@Sun.COM>
Subject Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects
Date Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:43:25 GMT
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>For the reason I stated: I don't believe we have sufficient commitments
>>from people willing and able to run a broad-based standards process.
> 
> Wouldn't it be the same people in the code podling working in two
> podlings?

If one of the podlings is for running a standards process, then no,
I don't believe it would be the same people; the standards podling
is likely to be close to the null set.

> So by separating this, we can be sure we can do well building the code
> community, and figure out the spec community along the way, if there was
> interest.  But by your starting sentence, you don't seem to believe
> that's viable anyway.

Again, I view developing specs (APIs) as distinct from running a
standards process. My concerns are with the latter, not the former.

> And that's a warning sign for me, right off the line, because I have
> trouble seeing how the development process inside a company is going to
> be similar to the somewhat chaotic dev process of an Apache project.

I agree the process will be different; that wasn't my point.
My point was that I don't see the development process for APIs
needing to be fundamentally different from the one for implementations.

>>The questions about committer votes and status
>>for specs vs code seem the same as those for component A vs
>>component B in a multi-component project. 
> 
> We tend not to segregate the committers.

And I don't see a problem with that; it's a good thing.

> You didn't just risk oversimplification, you committed an
> oversimplification felony :)
> 
> I'd argue that they are completely different in that the creation of a
> spec requires different skills than implementing that spec.

I don't see how requiring different skills necessarily implies
requiring different development processes.

- Bob


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