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From Geir Magnusson Jr <>
Subject Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects
Date Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:33:15 GMT

Bob Scheifler wrote:
> Filip at Apache wrote:
>> jini is a trademark
>> directory isn't
> The question wasn't about Jini vs others. Geir said he wouldn't support
> "Apache EMail" or "Apache Web", and I'd like to understand how those two
> are different from "Apache Directory", "Apache Web Services", etc.

I have no clue why we let Directory happen ;) as it did come out of the
Incubator, but as for WS, that is a far older umbrella project.

I'm beginning to believe that there was a moment in time in the History
of Open Source where such umbrellas had positive community properties
that provided a nurturing environment for new people and projects to
embed.  For example, Jakarta had a strong, diverse, cross-sub-project
community for a long time that had a single identity unto itself, and it
was incredibly prolific.

It may be now that we've all collectively matured in how we do open
source, so that model may no longer be as needed (if it was needed) or
productive as it once was.  It certainly has major downsides, such as
misplaced identity and affiliation w/ the umbrella vs the ASF.


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