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From "Craig Russell (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-44) [policy neutral] cut discursive material better handled in the guides
Date Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:52:23 GMT
    [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-44?page=comments#action_12431303 ] 
            
Craig Russell commented on INCUBATOR-44:
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One of the issues I've noticed in incubation is that the incubating project often does not
know who can help in what area. The trouble with the proposed patch is that it removes any
clue as to who might be the usual party to request help.

Maybe a better resolution would be to identify the responsible party for each of the tasks
noted:

Setting up the svn repo:

The general "requesting resources" page says, "New projects will need to ask for their SVN-space
to be created. Send to infrastructure@apache.org and Cc your PMC. Add an issue to Jira in
the "Subversion" category." What it doesn't say is who usually does the request.

Creation of mailing lists:

The general "requesting resources" page says, "Gather the required information about the new
lists. This includes the precise name and domain, the email addresses of the people who will
be moderators (ideally three+ and well spread). Send to apmail@apache.org and Cc your PMC.
Add an issue to Jira in the "Mailing Lists" category."

Who would normally be expected to submit the request?

There is no detail on how to add an issue to which jira. Maybe a direct reference to the correct
jira would help here.

> [policy neutral] cut discursive material better handled in the guides
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INCUBATOR-44
>                 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-44
>             Project: Incubator
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: policy
>            Reporter: Robert Burrell Donkin
>         Assigned To: Robert Burrell Donkin
>
> Cuts non-policy discursive material that is better located in the guides.
> This change is intended to be policy neutral.
> Index: site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml
> ===================================================================
> --- site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml        (revision 437587)
> +++ site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml        (working copy)
> @@ -285,21 +285,9 @@
>            <li>Incubator PMC mandating a helper Mentor</li>
>          </ul>
>          <p>
> -          Your project's mentors are able to undertake many of the setup
> -          tasks. See notes about how to
> -          <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/reporting-issues.html">request project
resources</a>
> -          such as new committer accounts and new mailing lists.
> -          (Note that a committer account will not be created
> -          <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter">until the
> -          Contributor License Agreement (CLA) has been recorded.</a>)
> -        </p>
> -        <p>
> -          Your project committers/PPMC members need to become familiar with
> -          the <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/">ASF Infrastructure information</a>
> -          and in particular the
> -          <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/#pmc">PMC</a> notes.
> -          Also see the <a href="../guides/pmc.html">Incubator PMC Guide</a>.
> -       </p>
> +          See <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/reporting-issues.html">how to</a>

> +          request project resources. 
> +         </p>
>       </section>
>        <section id="Ongoing+Activities">
>          <title>Ongoing Activities</title>
> Index: site-publish/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
> ===================================================================
> --- site-publish/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html      (revision 437587)
> +++ site-publish/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html      (working copy)
> @@ -376,21 +376,9 @@
>            <li>Incubator PMC mandating a helper Mentor</li>
>          </ul>
>  <p>
> -          Your project's mentors are able to undertake many of the setup
> -          tasks. See notes about how to
> -          <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/reporting-issues.html">request project
resources</a>
> -          such as new committer accounts and new mailing lists.
> -          (Note that a committer account will not be created
> -          <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter">until the
> -          Contributor License Agreement (CLA) has been recorded.</a>)
> -        </p>
> -<p>
> -          Your project committers/PPMC members need to become familiar with
> -          the <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/">ASF Infrastructure information</a>
> -          and in particular the
> -          <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/#pmc">PMC</a> notes.
> -          Also see the <a href="../guides/pmc.html">Incubator PMC Guide</a>.
> -       </p>
> +          See <a href="http://www.apache.org/dev/reporting-issues.html">how to</a>

> +          request project resources. 
> +         </p>
>  </div>
>  <h3>
>     <a name="Ongoing+Activities">Ongoing Activities</a>

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