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From: David Blevins <david.blevins@visi.com>
Subject: Re: Mentors - the more,
 the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:51:53 -0700
To: general@incubator.apache.org


On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:49 PM, Ted Leung wrote:

>
> On Jul 13, 2006, at 7:16 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>
>> In the ASF we do have PMC Chairs, period.
>> Now let's say, someone wins this debate on wether or not  having a  
>> PMC Chair from inside or outside the project is more or less  
>> likely to result in dependence.  I'm not of the opinion that we  
>> shouldn't be removing temptations or confusing dualities of the  
>> ASF while projects are in the incubator only for these projects to  
>> struggle with them after graduation.
>
> Actually on the projects that I have previously mentored, we had  
> PPMCs.   We did not have a PMC chair until the project graduated.    
> So we are discussing whether having a chair for the PPMC is a good  
> idea or not, and and my thinking on this was "it would be good  
> practice".    But now I am starting to think that maybe the good  
> practice that is needed is how to work without a chair or official  
> leader.   If you put that person in from the start, then there is  
> never an opportunity to learn that you can function without that  
> person.

Ok, I see.  Hmm... going to have to think about that.

I have the gut feeling there is something we can do to marry these  
concerns, as my primary concern is how the incubation ends.  I.e. I  
think there should be an opportunity before incubation ends to learn  
to function *with* that person and someone in the project to learn to  
*be* that person.

-David


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