Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 39665 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2006 17:23:07 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 24 Jul 2006 17:23:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 6800 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jul 2006 17:23:03 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 6655 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jul 2006 17:23:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 6128 invoked by uid 99); 24 Jul 2006 17:23:00 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:23:00 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of jta@bristowhill.com designates 66.75.162.135 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.75.162.135] (HELO ms-smtp-03.socal.rr.com) (66.75.162.135) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:22:59 -0700 Received: from [192.168.15.53] (cpe-72-130-190-172.san.res.rr.com [72.130.190.172]) by ms-smtp-03.socal.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6OHMRGS009699; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44C501D3.10302@bristowhill.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:22:27 -0700 From: "Jean T. Anderson" Reply-To: jta@bristowhill.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc3 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org CC: Justin Erenkrantz Subject: Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze) References: <2D673715-DE2E-4222-A794-3515F2F4DABB@gbiv.com> <44C0D923.5010604@redhat.com> <33C5175E-796E-4BA8-8000-EEA5E580D156@gbiv.com> <44C4BE8B.3000101@redhat.com> <5c902b9e0607240847h644a5138wecd2404e0ee6d56b@mail.gmail.com> <44C4F9AF.6010209@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <44C4F9AF.6010209@redhat.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Carl Trieloff wrote: ... > Here are some examples for Derby. Derby is a relational database implemented entirely in java, which entered the Apache Incubator in August 2004. With those points in mind .... 1) This looks like Cub Scout race management software and the most recent date on the web site is 1998: > www.geocities.com/~pack215/pwd-*software*.html 2) The entry below is game software. The dates on the downloads at http://www.derbysoftware.com/index.php?name=Downloads&req=viewdownload&cid=1 are 16-Apr-2006, but I don't find any clue on the website as to when the company was formed: > www.*derby**software*.com/ 3) It looks like this is car racing and is ultimately a U.S. Scouting Service project (http://usscouts.org/pinewood/cspdref.html), with a most recent date on the web site of 1999: > www.rahul.net/mcgrew/*derby*/resource.html 4) It looks like this download is a regional map covering Nottingham and Derby, and it has a release date of 10th December, 2004: > www.shopireland.ie/*software*/detail/184348191X/A-Z-Nottingham-&-*Derby*-/ 5) The only date I can find for this Derby skydiving site is 2005: > www.tracking*derby*.com/tdadownload.php Of these 5 hits, the Cub Scout car racing (#1 and #3) are the ones that pre-date Apache Derby and are the most likely to be questioned. I don't know if they came up in the original search in the summer of 2004, but I doubt that either would be confused with a relational database. -jean --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org