Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 57411 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2006 08:03:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 19 Jul 2006 08:03:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 94242 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jul 2006 08:03:25 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 93776 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jul 2006 08:03:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 93765 invoked by uid 99); 19 Jul 2006 08:03:23 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:03:23 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [81.103.221.48] (HELO mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) (81.103.221.48) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:03:22 -0700 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060719080259.BPRQ27023.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:02:59 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [82.11.145.227]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060719080259.SIEG1421.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.0.2]> for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:02:59 +0100 Message-ID: <44BDE77E.30103@virgin.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:04:14 +0100 From: Gordon Sim User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Proposal] Blaze References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N James Strachan wrote: > On 7/19/06, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> Ian Holsman wrote: >> Blaze is about only AMQP, a proposed standard for interoperable >> messaging. >> ActiveMQ implements multiple protocols. There is some disagreement >> between >> AMQP proponents and the ActiveMQ team regarding the desirability of >> balkanizing messaging protocols. > > I'd maybe rephrase that a little; AMQP proponents see AMQP as 'the one > protocol to bind them all' whereas the ActiveMQ team are pretty > flexible on protocols, we prefer to let users decide to use whatever > protocol makes sense for their requirements so we support several > (REST, Ajax, XML, WS-Notififaction, Jabber (never quite finished that > one), Stomp, OpenWire) and hopefully one day AMQP too. > Responding here as an individual, rather than on behalf of all AMQP proponents (and I don't think I would describe myself with that label!), I certainly don't see AMQP as the one protocol to bind them all. I agree with you entirely that the protocol should be selected based on the needs of the system being built. AMQP aims to add a protocol designed for message-oriented-middleware to the set from which that choice can be made, where currently all too often it is a product that dictates the protocol. It is useful to hide various protocols behind a common API, but it is also useful to be able to implement various APIs using a common protocol. Both approaches give the user more freedom in their choice and more options for integration and interoperability. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org