Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 63280 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2006 23:22:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 24 Jul 2006 23:22:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 62665 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jul 2006 23:22:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 62610 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jul 2006 23:22:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 62599 invoked by uid 99); 24 Jul 2006 23:22:52 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:22:52 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of davanum@gmail.com designates 66.249.82.192 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.82.192] (HELO wx-out-0102.google.com) (66.249.82.192) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:22:50 -0700 Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i26so773585wxd for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:22:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SliGtBjW7gq2I2/sjAT+TMZnoeIrDzGJsNxErN3c29s5cPDMg+k4yV//qJcdT89CPuv7AS8lIA251iaDp5QZr4tQ+dzBxy6x+vBQ4B0u/xclYJ9UK/wCTGsAJTz6ub1xE1mm3W3Uuzf9qVXSKF45nwJDdLLoyvClMrrYfLG0fmU= Received: by 10.70.99.11 with SMTP id w11mr120922wxb; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.91.17 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19e0530f0607241622q7b9f2ffaqe530ebd400ede33d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 19:22:24 -0400 From: "Davanum Srinivas" Reply-To: dims@apache.org To: general@incubator.apache.org, cctrieloff@redhat.com Subject: Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze) Cc: "Justin Erenkrantz" In-Reply-To: <44C50603.8030802@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2D673715-DE2E-4222-A794-3515F2F4DABB@gbiv.com> <44C0D923.5010604@redhat.com> <33C5175E-796E-4BA8-8000-EEA5E580D156@gbiv.com> <44C4BE8B.3000101@redhat.com> <5c902b9e0607240847h644a5138wecd2404e0ee6d56b@mail.gmail.com> <44C4F9AF.6010209@redhat.com> <44C501D3.10302@bristowhill.com> <44C50603.8030802@redhat.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I am missing something...Is there a product that they sell named Synapse? I can't find it. -- dims On 7/24/06, Carl Trieloff wrote: > > The synapse ones are clearly software though... At this point I am not > trying > to argue to use or non-use of a name. Just understand how does Apache > deals with this. > > Maybe we should use Synapse as the comp project to understand as it is > quite a > recent project, and this link > http://www.synapse.co.in/homepage/trademarks.shtml. > > How was the decision made around Synapse? > > Carl. > > > > > Jean T. Anderson wrote: > > Carl Trieloff wrote: > > ... > > > >> Here are some examples for Derby. > >> > > > > Derby is a relational database implemented entirely in java, which > > entered the Apache Incubator in August 2004. With those points in mind .... > > > > > > 1) This looks like Cub Scout race management software and the most > > recent date on the web site is 1998: > > > >> www.geocities.com/~pack215/pwd-*software*.html > >> > > > > 2) The entry below is game software. The dates on the downloads at > > http://www.derbysoftware.com/index.php?name=Downloads&req=viewdownload&cid=1 > > are 16-Apr-2006, but I don't find any clue on the website as to when the > > company was formed: > > > >> www.*derby**software*.com/ > >> > > > > 3) It looks like this is car racing and is ultimately a U.S. Scouting > > Service project (http://usscouts.org/pinewood/cspdref.html), with a most > > recent date on the web site of 1999: > > > >> www.rahul.net/mcgrew/*derby*/resource.html > >> > > > > 4) It looks like this download is a regional map covering Nottingham and > > Derby, and it has a release date of 10th December, 2004: > > > >> www.shopireland.ie/*software*/detail/184348191X/A-Z-Nottingham-&-*Derby*-/ > >> > > > > 5) The only date I can find for this Derby skydiving site is 2005: > > > >> www.tracking*derby*.com/tdadownload.php > >> > > > > Of these 5 hits, the Cub Scout car racing (#1 and #3) are the ones that > > pre-date Apache Derby and are the most likely to be questioned. I don't > > know if they came up in the original search in the summer of 2004, but I > > doubt that either would be confused with a relational database. > > > > -jean > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > -- Davanum Srinivas : http://www.wso2.net (Oxygen for Web Service Developers) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org