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Subject: Re: [VOTE] [UPDATE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal
From: Sanjiva Weerawarana <sanjiva@opensource.lk>
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:17:51 +0530
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On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 21:28 -0400, Dan Diephouse wrote:
> >
> > +1 Noel. I'd like to join the PPMC too as an interested party observer.
> > I will poke my nose in as a mentor when possible but don't have the
> > cycles to commit to it.
> Hi Sanjiva,
> 
> I'm confused, you're saying you don't have the time to commit to it, but 
> you want to be one? Mentors have some very concrete responsibilities:

You misunderstood as I wasn't clear: I used "mentor" in the English
sense and not in the "Mentor" role sense. You know, like give some
suggestions and maybe even unsolicited advice here and there. I've done
that to various projects .. whether I'm a Mentor or not. No one is
required to take such advice seriously.

> While I value your feedback and input, if you don't have enough time, I 
> don't understand why you should be a mentor. We have 4 mentors already, 
> and from a logistical standpoint I find it hard to keep up with. Each 
> mentor tends to have a different opinion or different input.  While more 
> input can be great, it can easily get to the point of overload and 
> impedes Getting Stuff Done. :-)

The Getting Stuff Done part in the project is restricted to the
technical part - mentoring is not about getting stuff done. I know a
thing or two about the technical area Dan and I darned well will have
input on it. Do you see that as a problem too? 

Mentors are not there to give input on technical stuff. They are around
to ensure that the project behaves and acts as an ASF project (over
time)- if you are saying that you don't want any pontificating advice
from me on how to run the project, that's totally fine. I have no desire
to poke my nose in if its not welcome .. what I said in my email is that
I don't have the time to take the "Mentor" role but that I will mentor
where I see something not quite koshure but if that's a problem/concern
all is ok fine with me.

Sanjiva.


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