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From "robert burrell donkin" <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: question about naming
Date Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:30:12 GMT
On 7/31/06, Garrett Rooney <rooneg@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:
> On 7/31/06, sophitia que <sophitiaque@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 7/31/06, Martin Sebor <sebor@roguewave.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is it intended that either of the two mentions (specifically just
> > > the URL) satisfy this requirement? I.e., that something like this
> > > be sufficient on a third party web page that discusses the project:
> > >
> > >     <a href="http://incubator.apache.org/podling-name">
> > >         Apache Podling-Name
> > >     </a>
> >
> >
> > Hello Martin:
> >
> > From my perspective, the above is insufficient because it presumes that
> > people understand that http://incubator.apache.org/.... refers to a project
> > in incubation.  Perhaps this is a failure on our part, to do the sufficient
> > branding of what the Apache Incubator is, but I'd say that until such time
> > that the Apache Incubator has become better understood as an entity and
> > process through the industry, that explicit mention of a "project in
> > incubation/in the Apache Incubator" is necessary.

+1

IMHO we need to start addressing this. the landing pages for the press
(and other media organisations) and analysts needs to contain
information about the incubator. the disclaimer in the releases is
good and there are a lot talks at conferences about the incubator so
i'm reasonably confident that we're doing ok with the grassroots. it's
the mainstream media and analysts that worry me.

> If that's the case then someone should change the docs,

there are plenty of improvements needed to the docs but there are only
a few people willing to step up and create patches at the moment.

> since that's totally not how I read it.

i read it as referring to self-promotion by those associated with the podling

> Judging from what's there now, just using
> the link to incubator.a.o seems like it should be totally sufficient.

perhaps we need to add a section aimed at downstream organizations
explaining our attitude to incubating podlings (which is summed up
pretty well in the release disclaimer) and asking them to help educate
their users. i'm agnostic about mandating a particular method for
doing so.

- robert

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