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From "robert burrell donkin" <>
Subject Re: piling on
Date Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:45:34 GMT
On 7/19/06, Noel J. Bergman <> wrote:
> Ian Holsman wrote:
> > should the podlings have a say on who gets to mentor them?
> > for example I could become a mentor of Blaize (I actually like the
> > project) but shouldn't the proposer have a say ?
> If you accept that a Mentor is just a name for an Incubator PMC member who
> is active in the project community --- and what else does it mean,
> really --- then the answer is no.  All Incubator projects are governed by
> the Incubator PMC, and only the ASF Board (in a somewhat tenuous use of
> the
> word "establish", but we all accept that interpretation of 6.3 as
> operational) determines whom is on that roster.
> So, no, projects do not get to determine their own oversight.  They
> haven't
> earned that right, and won't until and unless they graduate to TLP status.


But in terms of the leadership, or even respect, facet of Mentor semantics,
> Mentors do not become leaders by fiat.  They have to earn it and maintain
> it.


- robert

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