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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject RE: [VOTE] [UPDATE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal
Date Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:32:03 GMT
Jim Jagielski wrote:

> Mladen Turk wrote:
> > since some members thinks that insulting our fellows
> > is actually a great joke, and something one should
> > be proud off, I'm fine.

> Well, let me just say that once a project is within
> the incubator, and someone is on the PPMC, things
> become very different.

William Rowe's response to him fairly well summed up the issue(s).  I have
relatively little concern regarding castigating projects for failings, even
if the criticism could be expressed more constructively than acerbically.
BUT we do not accept personal attacks, and will not tolerate them on
someone's blog anymore than on a mailing list.

> I have no hesitation at all regarding people and
> podlings being removed if they don't get it.

Hopefully, it has been made clear to him that blog entries that in his own
words "degenerate into my usual personal insult comfort zone" will not be
acceptable from here on out.  Since he has the ability to recognize that
tendency in himself, then he should be expected to exercise some
self-control rather than indulge himself.

It would be a sad commentary if he had to be excluded because of an
inability to curtail his self-described "random blathering that serves no
particular purpose than ranting for ranting's sake."  Most people learn at
least minimally appropriate self-control for their culture in social
situations relatively earler in life than we see them at the ASF.  So if the
consenus is to have him participate, we will expect the Mentors to take any
remedial action as necessary.

	--- Noel

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