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From Jim Jagielski <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] [UPDATE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal
Date Tue, 18 Jul 2006 16:33:01 GMT

On Jul 18, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Mladen Turk wrote:

> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>> Well, I just expressed my opinion as an ASF member, because this
>>> project and their mentors show no respect to the other members
>>> feelings about it.
>> I don't think there is any disrespect but there may be a  
>> difference of opinion but that's not the same thing. There's  
>> always going to be a difference of opinion about what projects  
>> people think are appropriate or not, or what people others think  
>> are appropriate or not. It's not a matter of impropriety or  
>> disrespect, it's a matter of opinion and everyone has one.
> Well, it's my opinion, and I've express it.
> You know the reason, and I'm standing behind it,
> because I saw nothing but even greater disregard
> to the ASF community.
> Anyhow, the project is probably more valuable then
> a simple 'what makes the ASF' philosophy, and since
> some members thinks that insulting our fellows
> is actually a great joke, and something one should
> be proud off, I'm fine.

Well, let me just say that once a project is within
the incubator, and someone is on the PPMC, things
become very different.

Community over code is not just a cool catch
phrase. I have no hesitation at all regarding
people and podlings being removed if they don't
get it.

just my 2c

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