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From "Davanum Srinivas" <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb
Date Sun, 16 Jul 2006 09:58:08 GMT
Sounds like a good approach to me.

-- dims

On 7/15/06, Alex Karasulu <aok123@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> > On 7/15/06, Alex Karasulu <aok123@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> Everyone else that has been working with Dave is already an ASF
> >> committer with a CLA on file at the ASF:
> >>
> >> Trustin Lee
> >> Dan Diephouse
> >> Alex Karasulu
> >>
> >> Yes let's get that software grant and a CLA from you Dave.  Considering
> >> the constituents of the project at safehaus we might be able to take up
> >> Justin's earlier suggestion to possibly import the project: moving the
> >> source, doco (confluence) and jira issues all at once to the ASF.
> >
> > I think then a software grant and iCLA/CCLA plus a completed IP
> > Clearance form from an ASF Officer or Member is sufficient (see the IP
> > clearance template for the instructions on submission).
> >
> > Depending upon how substantial the contributions were from the 3
> > ASFers, we might need Trustin, Dan, and Alex to also sign the software
> > grant too for AsyncWeb.  The official policy is that we need software
> > grants signed from all developers - but if you guys just submitted
> > minor patches, that's probably not necessary - but if you developed
> > large chunks of AsyncWeb too, then a grant should be filed too even
> > though you have iCLAs on file.
> >
> >> Also note that there are no dependencies except on MINA.
> >
> > Good.
> >
> >> Why don't we start the process of importing the project into Directory
> >> for now as a MINA protocol example and get the MINA TLP proposal before
> >> the board. With the move of MINA (and AsyncWeb) out of Directory,
> >> AsyncWeb will be under a MINA TLP.
> >
> > Honestly, I'd recommend flipping it: get MINA to be TLP first and then
> > move in AsyncWeb.  There's no reason that AsyncWeb should land in the
> > Directory TLP and then move again in short-order.  Ensure that the
> > submitted charter of MINA can incorporate AsyncWeb sufficiently.  If
> > you submit the resolution ASAP, it'll make it into this month's Board
> > meeting (which is likely to be Wednesday, but that's not confirmed
> > yet).  You can add Dave to the initial MINA PMC roster even though his
> > project isn't in just yet, too.  Or, you can add him after the IP
> > paperwork is filed too - whatever works best.
>
> I'm fine with this option as well.  Let's give it a try.  Do the rest of
> you guys agree with this approach?
>
> >> Or do you still see incubation as being necessary for AsyncWeb even
> >> after getting a Grant and CLA from Dave?
> >
> > I personally don't think so.  We're talking about one committer
> > joining an already existing ASF project and that individual has
> > already worked with at least three other ASFers.  If the legal
> > paperwork is filed (i.e. grant and iCLA/CCLA), I don't see the point
> > of 'full' Incubation.  MINA's getting a chunk of code...the Incubator
> > PMC just needs to ensure that the legal paperwork is received first.
> >
> >> I'm asking these questions because then it will effect the way we write
> >> the MINA proposal and whether or not we have to submit one for AsyncWeb.
> >>
> >> How do we determine if this is a "boundry case" (quoting Noel's email)
> >> for import rather than incubation?
> >
> > It's a smell test.  ;-)  -- justin
>
> Smells good :).
>
> Alex
>
>
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Davanum Srinivas : http://www.wso2.net (Oxygen for Web Service Developers)

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