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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:28:17 -0400
From: "Yoav Shapira" <yoavs@apache.org>
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To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] CeltiXfire Project
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Hola,
Cool overall.  Would it be possible to detail the affiliations of the
(relatively large) initial committers, so that we can tell how homo-
or heterogeneous that community is at the moment?

Yoav

On 6/20/06, Sakala, Adinarayana <ASAKALA@iona.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Below is a project proposal for incubation consideration.
> The project welcomes your feedback as well as interest in involvement.
> This proposal is also located online at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/=
CeltiXfireProposal
>
> =3D=3D CeltiXfire Proposal =3D=3D
>
> Project CeltiXfire is a SOA infrastructure framework focused on implement=
ation of JCP and web service standards while also providing extensibility f=
or legacy integration. It is a merge of two matured open source projects an=
d communities, ObjectWeb Celtix (http://celtix.objectweb.org) and Codehaus =
Xfire (http://xfire.codehaus.org). It will implement the JAX-WS, JAX-WSA, a=
nd JSR-181 standards. Core to this is support for web service standards lik=
e SOAP 1.1, SOAP 1.2, WS-I BasicProfile, WS-Security, WS-Addressing, WS-RM,=
 and WS-Policy. This project will support several programming models like J=
AX-WS, JBI (ServiceMix), SCA (Tuscany), and CORBA services (Yoko).  We will=
 leverage open source components wherever possible, for example we intend t=
o use WSS4J for ws-security from the Apache Web Services project. One goal =
of this project is to provide public APIs that match the JSR standards. Fur=
thermore, the scope of this project is to provide SOA infrastructure for bo=
th modern web services and for legacy systems. The seed code has been desig=
ned to provide a pluggable architecture to support both XML and non-XML typ=
e bindings in combination with any type of transport. For example, Celtix i=
s in the process of being extended to provide a CORBA binding as part of th=
e Apache Yoko project (in incubation). Additional examples of non-XML bindi=
ngs that could be supported in the future include fixed length record bindi=
ngs, which are critical to integrating mainframe systems into a SOA. The cu=
rrent infrastructure code is designed for flexible deployment in a variety =
of containers including JBI, J2EE, SCA and servlet containers.
>
> =3D=3D Rationale =3D=3D
> The project is interested in moving to Apache for the following reasons: =
To provide Apache-licensed implementations of the relevant web service JSR =
standards: JAX-WS, JAX-WSA, JSR-181, and JSR-265 standards and to test thos=
e implementations with the applicable JSR TCKs, to become better integrated=
 with the Geronimo, Harmony, ServiceMix, Tuscany, Yoko and Apache Web Servi=
ces communities, and to build a strong vendor-neutral community that will o=
utlast any one person's or company's participation.
>
> =3D=3D Meritocracy =3D=3D
> The Codehaus Xfire and ObjectWeb Celtix projects have fostered a developm=
ent community based around meritocracy. Many of the committers already work=
 on other Apache projects and understand the Apache way. The individuals un=
derstand that they are responsible for the code, and that the community aro=
und the project will define the direction.
>
> =3D=3D Community =3D=3D
> The CeltiXfire Community will bring together two already successful commu=
nities - Xfire and Celtix. Both projects have active users and contributors=
 on the mailing lists.
>
> =3D=3D Core Developers =3D=3D
> The CeltiXfire project's initial committers include a diverse set of indi=
viduals. Some of the individuals are employed by Envoi Solutions, IONA, BEA=
, LogicBlaze and Red Hat, and some are not funded by any particular employe=
r.
>
> =3D=3D Alignment =3D=3D
> CeltiXfire currently uses and integrates with many Apache projects but do=
es not have hard dependencies on these (in alphabetical order):
>  * ActiveMQ is used as the default JMS implementation.
>  * Continuum: Apache Continuum currently uses XFire for its SOAP integrat=
ion.
>  * Harmony: Harmony is implementing Java 5.0 and requires support for man=
y of the JSR that CeltiXfire will provide.
>  * Jakarta Commons HttpClient can be used for the HTTP client transport.
>  * Geronimo: Celtix already provides Geronimo integration. CeltiXfire wil=
l continue this effort and will be made available so that Geronimo could us=
e CeltiXfire as its JAX-WS implementation for JEE.
>  * ServiceMix: Codehaus XFire is currently used within ServiceMix to prov=
ide web service integration. Celtix provides its own JBI integration for Se=
rviceMix as well, although JBI is an option and not a requirement for Celti=
x implementation.
>  * Maven 2: Celtix and Xfire already provide Maven 2 plug-ins for invokin=
g the Celtix and Xfire tooling.
>  * Tuscany: Celtix is already integrated with Tuscany.
>  * WSS4J: CeltiXfire uses Apache WSS4J for WS-Security support.
>  * XMLBeans is currently used as one of the data-binding options for Celt=
iXfire.
>  * XmlSchema: CeltiXfire uses XmlSchema for many schema related functions=
 internally.
>  * Yoko: Celtix is already integrated with Yoko to provide support for ex=
posing CORBA services as web services.
>
> We are currently evaluating the use of other Apache projects as well like=
 Woden, Neethi and JaxMe.
>
> =3D=3D Avoiding the Warning Signs =3D=3D
>
> =3D=3D=3D Orphaned products =3D=3D=3D
> CeltiXfire is a merging of two successful open source projects, ObjectWeb=
 Celtix and Codehaus Xfire. Both have active communities and developers. Ce=
ltiXfire provides support for some important specifications to Java communi=
ty, we expect that this project will continue to grow and develop within it=
s own community, and be embraced by many other open source projects as well=
.
>
> =3D=3D=3D Inexperience with open source =3D=3D=3D
> The authors of the existing code have extensive experience with open sour=
ce already.  The initial list of committers includes 9 Apache Committers.  =
They are involved in:
>  * Apache Continuum
>  * Apache Geronimo
>  * Apache ServiceMix
>  * Apache Tuscany
>  * Apache Yoko
>
> =3D=3D=3D Homogeneous developers =3D=3D=3D
> The project's initial committers include individuals that are employed by=
 a diverse set of companies, including Envoi Solutions, IONA, LogicBlaze, B=
EA and Red Hat.  About 2/3 of the initial committers are employed by IONA. =
 Additionally the project has several committers whose work is not funded b=
y any particular employer.
>
> =3D=3D=3D Reliance on Salaried Developers =3D=3D=3D
> Many of the developers are salaried, but they are spread out over several=
 organizations. Several other developers are contributing to this project w=
ithout any connection to an employer.
>
> =3D=3D=3D No ties to other Apache products =3D=3D=3D
> Both ObjectWeb Celtix and Codehaus Xfire currently use many Apache projec=
ts. These have been outlined in the "alignment" section.
>
> =3D=3D=3D A fascination with the Apache brand =3D=3D=3D
> While we expect the Apache brand may help attract more contributors, our =
interests in starting this project is based on the factors mentioned in the=
 Rationale section.  However, we will be sensitive to inadvertent abuse of =
the Apache brand and will work with the Incubator PMC and the PRC to ensure=
 the brand policies are respected.
>
> =3D=3D=3D Scope of Subprojects =3D=3D=3D
> No subprojects proposed.
>
> =3D=3D Initial Source =3D=3D
> The Celtix codebase is owned by IONA. It is currently available under bot=
h EPL and LGPL licenses (http://celtix.objectweb.org). The applicable code =
will be relicensed under the Apache License 2.0. The Codehaus Xfire codebas=
e is owned by Envoi Solutions LLC and is available under an MIT license (ht=
tp://xfire.codehaus.org). The applicable code will be relicensed under the =
Apache Software License 2.0. The dependencies all have Apache compatible li=
censes. These include BSD, CDDL, CPL, MPL and MIT licensed dependencies.
>
> =3D=3D ASF Resources to be Created =3D=3D
>  * Mailing lists
>    * cxf-dev
>    * cxf-user
>    * cxf-commits
>    * cxf-ppmc
>  * SVN Repository https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/cxf
>  * JIRA CeltiXfire (CeltiXfire)
>  * Official Build Systems
>
> =3D=3D Initial Committers =3D=3D
>  * Adi Sakala
>  * Dan Diephouse
>  * Guillaume Nodet
>  * James Strachan
>  * David Blevins
>  * Peter Royal
>  * Daniel Kulp
>  * Balaji Ravi
>  * Conrad O'Dea
>  * Hani Suileman
>  * Mika Goekel
>  * Adam Kramer
>  * Tomek Sztelak
>  * Stuart Edmondston
>  * Bozhong Lin
>  * Jervis Liu
>  * Julian Squires
>  * James Mao
>  * Jim Ma
>  * Freeman Fang
>  * Tom Li
>  * Willem Jiang
>  * Andrea Smyth
>  * Eoghan Glynn
>  * Debbie Moynihan
>  * Ajay Paibir
>  * Ulhas Bhole
>  * Sean O'Callaghan
>  * Peter Jones
>  * Eric Johnson
>  * Brian Zotter
>  * Mark Little
>
> =3D=3D Sponsor =3D=3D
> We kindly request the Incubator PMC to accept sponsorship for this propos=
al.
>
> =3D=3D Champion =3D=3D
> Jason Van Zyl
>
> =3D=3D Mentors =3D=3D
>  * Jason Van Zyl
>  * Jim Jagielski
>  * James Strachan
>
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