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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:11:53 +0100
From: "Justin Erenkrantz" <justin@erenkrantz.com>
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Subject: Re: Branding of Incubator projects
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On 6/29/06, Martin Sebor <sebor@roguewave.com> wrote:
> I'm not quite comfortable with the word inaccurate here. What
> exactly does it refer to? (Assuming it's bullet 5, there doesn't
> seem anything inaccurate about putting out a press release
> announcing the proposal of a project, ill-advised though it
> may be.)

Podlings are not to be generated for the purpose of publicity.
Therefore, they can and should be barred from 'positive publicity'
until they have been accepted, lists created, and submitted a code
base.  If a podling violates these rules, I want to see them
terminated and I want the ASF to issue a counter-release saying that
the project is terminated due to violations in our branding
guidelines.

We have had way way way too many problems with podlings seeking
publicity when they had no code yet.  Kabuki is just the latest
example - right after being accepted, IBM/Zimbra issued a PR - but
they then silently went away after getting all that free publicity for
their company. The ASF Incubator PMC should not condone actions around
smoke and mirrors.  If a podling doesn't like that policy, they are
free to find another home.  Now, the policy is public for all to see.
-- justin

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