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From "Davanum Srinivas" <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] CeltiXfire Project
Date Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:27:56 GMT
So, Could the principals involved drop all the marketing stuff and
call it what it is?

"A SOAP Engine that implements multiple JSR's, databindings,
transports, supports multiple WS-* protocols and can work with non-XML
data"?

Thanks,
dims

On 6/22/06, James Strachan <james.strachan@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lots of people use the ESB word these days to talk about lots of
> different kinds of technology, so its a pretty meaningless term. (e.g.
> Some Synapse folks claim its an ESB too while others claim its an
> Axis2 mediation framework).
>
> So its better to focus on the specifications which are the aims of the
> project rather than these woolly marketing terms like ESB & SOA which
> don't really mean anything ;)
>
> On 6/22/06, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sanjiva@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-06-22 at 17:30 +0200, James Strachan wrote:
> > >
> > > CeltixFire is aimed at implementing the JAX-WS/JAX-WSA/JSR-181
> > > standards which are the newer standards for working with SOAP &
> > > WS-Addressing on the Java platform
> >
> > Thanks for the clarification. So its basically an alternate to Axis2 as
> > we are working on all these specs there too; which of course is cool ..
> > alternates are a good way to figure out different ways of skinning a cat
> > and eventually we'll find the right way (hopefully before the cat
> > dies ;-)).
> >
> > I thought XFire does all these specs too
> > (http://xfire.codehaus.org/Stack+Comparison; except for obviously
> > JAX-WSA as that's not even done yet). So what part of Celtix (other than
> > the name) is in Celtixfire in that case?
> >
> > However, I'm not certain Iona folks look at it as just an impl of these
> > specs- at least that's not the impression I've gotten so far. Adi or any
> > of the Iona folks can you indicate what exactly Celtixfire is from your
> > point of view? Celtix is still marketed as an ESB and James' picture
> > doesn't quite fit. From http://celtix.objectweb.org/: "Celtix 1.0
> > provides users with a feature-rich, open source ESB runtime that can
> > support any organization's adoption of Service Oriented Architecture
> > (SOA) in the enterprise."
> >
> > I'm confused exactly what Celtixfire is going to be.
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> >
> >
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>
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>
> James
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