From general-return-8866-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Wed May 10 16:49:14 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 4667 invoked from network); 10 May 2006 16:48:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 10 May 2006 16:48:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 90690 invoked by uid 500); 10 May 2006 16:48:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 90614 invoked by uid 500); 10 May 2006 16:48:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 90603 invoked by uid 99); 10 May 2006 16:48:32 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 May 2006 09:48:32 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [66.28.87.139] (HELO nyc-450-srv03.nyc.com) (66.28.87.139) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 May 2006 09:48:31 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: XAP (Extensible Ajax Platform) Proposal Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 12:48:05 -0400 Message-ID: <9F87868606E1E446BF1257A88C4D17AB029DCC63@nyc-450-srv03.nyc.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: XAP (Extensible Ajax Platform) Proposal Thread-Index: AcZ0TTer4776JEnvRLGtXuSxXf7odgAAVhpQAACXppA= From: "Craeg Strong" To: X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N One more point: XAP is to JavaScript as Ant is to Perl/Shell scripting Developers feel comfortable using and modifying Ant scripts. XSLT (or other technologies) can be used to generate Ant scripts on the fly. Build Documentation and GUIs can be generated from Ant scripts easily. Etc. Declarative technology works. XML is the lingua franca today (like it or hate it) and enjoys tool support. That is the reason something like XAP is a good idea. My 2c, --Craeg -----Original Message----- From: general-return-8865-cstrong=3Dnyc.saic.com@incubator.apache.org [mailto:general-return-8865-cstrong=3Dnyc.saic.com@incubator.apache.org] On Behalf Of Craeg Strong Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:42 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: XAP (Extensible Ajax Platform) Proposal I am on a project building a time and attendance/work force management system for a user base of 100K+ We put together a technology much like XAP. =20 It allowed us to replace a team of 8 JSP programmers with two GUI developers + 1 information architect. No one else on the team (35 devs) knows Javascript. At one point, we produced 100 "new" (radically redesigned) highly complex interactive screens in 3 months. All cosmetic/functional changes are instantly propagated to each of our ~300 screens via the code-generation design (XSLT). Hope this helps, --Craeg=20 -----Original Message----- From: general-return-8864-cstrong=3Dnyc.saic.com@incubator.apache.org [mailto:general-return-8864-cstrong=3Dnyc.saic.com@incubator.apache.org] On Behalf Of Brian McCallister Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:17 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: XAP (Extensible Ajax Platform) Proposal On May 9, 2006, at 8:56 PM, Coach Wei wrote: > Has anyone had a chance to look at this proposal? I realize there =20 > have > been a few other threads on this list in the last week, but I'd really > be interested in getting any feedback. Off topic of the proposal -- how is scripting a UI in XML easier or =20 more powerful than in JavaScript? It seems the opposite would be true. -Brian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org