Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 57226 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2006 23:49:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Mar 2006 23:49:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 26271 invoked by uid 500); 15 Mar 2006 23:48:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 26079 invoked by uid 500); 15 Mar 2006 23:48:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 26063 invoked by uid 99); 15 Mar 2006 23:48:44 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:48:44 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OIMO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [66.112.202.2] (HELO mail.devtech.com) (66.112.202.2) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:48:44 -0800 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.devtech.com (JAMES SMTP Server 3.0-dev) with SMTP ID 548; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:47:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Noel J. Bergman" To: , Cc: , Subject: RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:48:06 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2D8918DB-DD4D-4C8C-9FF8-E52B2DBCD28C@gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N James Strachan wrote: > What other issues are there? A number of infrastucture issues. Votes from the Incubator PMC and Geronimo PMC. To do that responsibly, I'd say that we would want to see communities having demonstrated that they understand how to practice as an ASF community. Such things are subjective, and typically have taken some time. Looking at the historical record: Derby took a year; Nutch took 5 months; JaxME and jUDDI took 6 months; JDO took 7 months. Those are just a few projects that have graduated to another TLP, and every community is different, but ActiveMQ and ServiceMix haven't been in the Incubator for 3 months, and are still moving over their infrastructure. Anyone see a need to rush to judgment? --- Noel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org