Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 20741 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2006 16:29:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Mar 2006 16:29:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 45757 invoked by uid 500); 17 Mar 2006 16:29:04 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 45632 invoked by uid 500); 17 Mar 2006 16:29:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 45618 invoked by uid 99); 17 Mar 2006 16:29:04 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:29:04 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of mkienenb@gmail.com designates 64.233.182.198 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.182.198] (HELO nproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.182.198) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:29:03 -0800 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id p46so459837nfa for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:28:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hpQzy22dkBbiFwVBhkQPpjBCU6uu0B7wsyr2lQJ4f5dta6ItOSWMOVQagWQ3M3MFxjOZl7ZgosmTbENfoROSYIUe7PAC6Pdlcn0jaIv/tjzlWcMB8+qjX6Top5WJrIvLLgY0IBcU/ebTA0AQVVgEXQquodhRb3ojMZNDLA9E83E= Received: by 10.48.230.3 with SMTP id c3mr1464979nfh; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:28:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.211.2 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:28:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8f985b960603170828y20c7ac3bjba6b2a1f85dcf97@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 11:28:38 -0500 From: "Mike Kienenberger" To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs In-Reply-To: <20060317161301.GB16754@bali.sjc.webweaving.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <44161A94.80002@Golux.Com> <5B43AB43-0B44-428A-89DB-D9E2FF44FA2A@yahoo.com> <4416C547.80309@Golux.Com> <19e0530f0603140623k1f850a95m32167d0e5a1a1dd9@mail.gmail.com> <20060317161301.GB16754@bali.sjc.webweaving.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On 3/17/06, Leo Simons wrote: > remember committing stuff is not the only way to be a > participant. I'm always scared of these kinds of metrics -- > people tend to abuse them (not saying you are). As an example I > have not committed a single line of code to harmony but I think most > people would agree I am an active part of its community, perhaps even > enough to merit committership (if I wasn't a mentor nor ASF committer > nor incubator PMC member already). Thanks for pointing that out, Leo. I've been wondering if I should post something similar all week. I can only assume I was voted into the MyFaces PMC because of my activity and community-building work on the wiki, jira, and mailing lists, and not based on my commit messages. My actual code contributions have probably been less than some non-committers. Based on what's been proposed as a measurement recently, I probably wouldn't be considered a committer, much less a PMC member, if MyFaces were graduating from the incubator today. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org