Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 48811 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2006 23:31:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Mar 2006 23:31:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 4041 invoked by uid 500); 15 Mar 2006 23:31:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3464 invoked by uid 500); 15 Mar 2006 23:31:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3444 invoked by uid 99); 15 Mar 2006 23:31:41 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:31:41 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of justin.erenkrantz@gmail.com designates 64.233.162.198 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.162.198] (HELO zproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.162.198) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:31:40 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z31so228652nzd for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:31:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dr3DwcZTVP9ChM1GqyfsqVk3M60C12ZmIghKlG7/y57o5RGyGeDZ5YEy62hXebbMP3xx/0DvEW/AWnhhcBFicITxS4YxNTFnthM96lHgxKVNE84h+ocVqYd/2UWQBxYNATTmbJApi/exPyaZ7Tk5qcwFKrw9X4wHCBi2PQlqF0w= Received: by 10.65.96.13 with SMTP id y13mr338054qbl; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:31:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.185.19 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:31:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5c902b9e0603151531g664668f0u44c5117db1552f93@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:31:19 -0800 From: "Justin Erenkrantz" Sender: justin.erenkrantz@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator Cc: dev@geronimo.apache.org, coar@apache.org, activemq-dev@geronimo.apache.org, pmc@geronimo.apache.org In-Reply-To: <31cc37360603151513u2f094cb0ia24ba9bc9b1a38f9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4417F4EB.9080206@Golux.Com> <31cc37360603151513u2f094cb0ia24ba9bc9b1a38f9@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On 3/15/06, Henri Yandell wrote: >...snip good stuff.. > Have TLPs and have each TLP's website be at geronimo.apache.org. > Investigate federations. Even investigate sharing mailing lists. >...snip good stuff.. Jakarta and XML have gone that 'federation' route with a bunch of 'friendly' TLPs. HTTP Server may eventually spin off more sub-projects to TLP status as well (such as mod_python). The APR spin-off from HTTP Server was probably the first federation (although it wasn't called that). HTTP Server depends upon APR and they have a large committer and PMCer overlap (but not total), but from the Foundation/Board's perspective - they are independent TLPs and are treated as such. The same technical arguments seem to be made for ActiveMQ and ServiceMix in their dependency relationship with Geronimo. -- justin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org