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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:49:34 -0800
From: "Alan D. Cabrera" <list@toolazydogs.com>
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Henri Yandell wrote:
> On 3/15/06, Alan D. Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
>   
>> Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> - The presence of ActiveCluster/ActiveIO which were separate projects
>>> in codehaus (is the active cluster code inside the milestone? i don't
>>> see a separate jar).
>>>
>>>       
>> These are two small libraries used in AMQ that don't warrant their own
>> project.  The original founders of those projects had big aspirations at
>> the time they were formed at the CodeHaus a few years back.  If they had
>> known what was in store for their future, maybe it would have been done
>> differently.  Hindsight is 20/20 I guess.
>>
>>     
>>> - The lack of discussion on say the OpenWire stuff. I see one status
>>> email[1] that's it. the other 26 people don't seem to have any opinion
>>> on it. Are people talking offline?
>>>
>>>       
>> OpenWire has been around for a long time, way before incubation, so most
>> of the development issues were worked out a long time ago.   You'll see
>> bursts of traffic about it as people add new language bindings.
>> However,  I see a lot of discussion about it this month.  A large bulk
>> of the communication on the AMQ list is about OpenWire C/C++.
>>     
>
> Sorry to harp on a bit more with generic opinions that may or may not apply :)
>
> A 3-deep umbrella is another warning sign. I've found that the
> subprojects of subprojects are much harder for a PMC to maintain
> oversight over - given that they can't have sub-PMCs as such would be
> an example of redundant foundationing. Over the time many of the PMC
> don't even know that they exist.
>   

Good point but I'm not sure that it applies here.  OpenWire is an 
architectural component of AMQ.


Regards,
Alan


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