Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 70756 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2006 17:12:14 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Mar 2006 17:12:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 24015 invoked by uid 500); 8 Mar 2006 17:12:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 23804 invoked by uid 500); 8 Mar 2006 17:12:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 23662 invoked by uid 99); 8 Mar 2006 17:12:06 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:12:05 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [72.10.46.63] (HELO as.toolazydogs.com) (72.10.46.63) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:12:03 -0800 Received: (qmail 16069 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2006 17:11:40 -0000 Received: from c-67-169-131-199.hsd1.ca.comcast.net (HELO ?192.168.226.38?) (67.169.131.199) by toolazydogs.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 8 Mar 2006 17:11:40 -0000 Message-ID: <440F0F27.5010107@toolazydogs.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:06:47 -0800 From: "Alan D. Cabrera" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Macintosh/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090408070904080501030900" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --------------090408070904080501030900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > ASF projects are supposed to be about a community managing a project. So > the warning signs include large disjoint communities, e.g., Jakarta, the old > XML project (which, itself, was a Jakarta spin-off), etc. > > So, good project boundaries are considered to be administrative, rather than > ontological. On the other hand, there are good reasons for considering > ontological domains. And as we disband umbrella projects, we have been > losing > communication within ontological domains that cross the administative (TLP) > boundaries. > > One of thing things that the we need to look at is how to improve > communication across projects. Perhaps having some ontological mailing > lists would be part of a solution. > > What ideas and views do others have? > If I have to troll another mailing list to keep abreast of what's going on in ASF, I'll shoot myself. How can we minimize the amount of work to be done? Regards, Alan --------------090408070904080501030900--