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From: Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org>
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To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Non-final materials in final ASF materials
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:48:42 +0800
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On Saturday 18 March 2006 01:36, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I am quite new at Apache, but from my understanding, the incubation=20
> process as nothing to do with the quality of the releases the=20
> incubated project produces. It has mainly to do with the ASF=20
> endorsing the project (though I do not have a clear understanding=20
> of what it really means...)=20

Correct. Nothing to do about the technical quality, but that the ASF is=20
stating "We (ASF) have vetted this codebase to the best of our abillities,=
=20
and it should now be unencumbered of copyrights and licensing terms, and we=
=20
have an active community around the codebase that will ensure the long-term=
=20
viability of this project."

So when Leo say "at your own risk", it is in the context of "our vetting an=
d=20
community building process is not yet complete, and this *may* never become=
=20
an endorsed ASF project".

> Doing only milestones may be good for new projects, but for=20
> projects that do have a huge user community, not being able to=20
> do releases can be a problem=20
> -- what about bugfix releases on previous versions ? =A0
> Such projects may be in need of "real" releases, even if=20
> incubating (and thus, non endorsed by the ASF).

Such projects are encouraged to do these releases at their "current" home.=
=20
Nothing stops ActiveMQ to make a release out of the CodeHaus location,=20
although it is in ASF incubation.


Cheers
Niclas

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